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[RLENT]

Trying something completely new and different huh?

Not at all ...

FWIW, you are a known quantity - at least to some degree - and your posts constitute a historical public record of a rather dubious nature ... whether it's keeping 'em barefoot at home ... the summary execution of spammers ... or "rounding up the undesirables" for what you envision as "a solution" ...

 

[RLENT]

The reason you have seen almost no evidence of racism in the tea party is because there isn't much. You ARE looking hard enough.

Shortly after the above post was made, the poster was seen resuming his typical pose:

 

[muttly]

....A some will always be race baiters....

 

[letzrockexpress]

The reason you have seen almost no evidence of racism in the tea party is because there isn't much. You ARE looking hard enough. You are right about the news media. They are trying to tag the tea party as a bunch of racists to discredit them. People who do this aren't omitted from being ignorant.

Ha, yeah.... Racism is not political. It is cultural. It exists equally from far left to far right. as far as who is ignorant and who is not, you might want to relocate from your glass house before you make such a comment....

 

[davekc]

Speaking of the Tea Party, seen this gem today. One of those "not likely to see on MSNBC"

IRS pays illegal immigrants $4.2 billion while stalling Tea Parties | Fox News

 

[Big Al]

Interesting poll by Yale Professor who researched Political Groups as to which were more scientifically savvy and he reported that he was shocked, the winner "tea party"! Many of us remember the "old days" when the Democrat party had people like Hubert Humphrey, Jack Kennedy and Harry Truman (my hero) that were looking out for the people somewhat instead of their own personal interests. Now the Democrats are powered by extreme Liberalism (trying to use Progressive as a cover). Republican's are full of the Country Club types who are happy with the status quo. There are a few voices out there, i.e. Dr Carson, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz who seem to have a little bit of Independence and it seems as though they get a little acceptance by the Republican's but none from the Democrat's except perhaps Joe Manchin. It almost seems as though a 3rd party may be an option in spite of the downfalls.

 

[Turtle]

Speaking of the Tea Party, seen this gem today. One of those "not likely to see on MSNBC"

IRS pays illegal immigrants $4.2 billion while stalling Tea Parties | Fox News

Well, the story as presented won't make it to most media outlets, since the connection between the stalling of the non-profits with conservative-sounding terms such as “patriot” and “tea party” in their titles when applying for tax-exempt status, with the Additional Child Tax Credit is a manufactured connection that only exists because of a political agenda. They are two separate stories which really have nothing to do with each other, except within the political rhetoric.

This is even more evident when you read the story as presented at Fox News and then DON'T click though to the original story, which very few people will do. They'll just read that Fox page and be done with it, coming away satiatedly madder at Democrats, Harry Reid especially (since that's what the last paragraph left them with), instead of being mad at the real issue of government bureaucracy and incompetence.

The law isn't clear, which needs to be addressed, but in the meantime the IRS is doing what the law tells it to do, which is to send out the checks to anyone with a Social Security number or an Individual Taxpayer Identification Number (ITIN) who claims a child. The fact that a single address in Atlanta received 23,994 ITIN refunds totaling $46,378,040, and a single bank account there received 8,393 refunds is irrelevant, because the law says send 'em anyway.

I'd suggest reading the Fox News page, then clicking through to the source story, and then go read the base story for all of it, which is a fascinating report of "about how our government works and how faceless, midlevel decision-makers can, and do, shape our basic policies. And how the courts are, in effect, powerless to do anything about it."

 

[Pilgrim]

Well this white boy grew up in south central Los Angeles in the 50's. I am a member of the tea party and I am for Dr Ben Carson for President. Previously I was for Herman Cain. Does this make me a Tea Party racist. My hero Harry Truman would not be welcome in either party these days especially the Democrat party. My neighborhood was ground central during the Rodney King riots, that was halfway to my Junior High School. According to the secular news I am not supposed to exist. Any thoughts?

Getting back to the OP, could this possibly be an endorsement of evaluating people according to their qualifications for a particular job instead of their level of political correctness? How about judging them on the content of their character instead of the color of their skin? But of course this attitude can't possibly be recognized to come from the Tea Party because they've reached the level of influence that becomes a threat to establishment Republicans and liberals in general. They must be isolated, labeled and destroyed according to Alinsky's Rules, and that's the agenda being followed by the MSM. Accordingly, we hear the terms "fringe", "neanderthals", "loonies",and of course "racists". Notice how name-calling is always employed when there's no argument that has a basis in fact.

 

[letzrockexpress]

Interesting poll by Yale Professor who researched Political Groups as to which were more scientifically savvy and he reported that he was shocked, the winner "tea party"! Many of us remember the "old days" when the Democrat party had people like Hubert Humphrey, Jack Kennedy and Harry Truman (my hero) that were looking out for the people somewhat instead of their own personal interests. Now the Democrats are powered by extreme Liberalism (trying to use Progressive as a cover). Republican's are full of the Country Club types who are happy with the status quo. There are a few voices out there, i.e. Dr Carson, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz who seem to have a little bit of Independence and it seems as though they get a little acceptance by the Republican's but none from the Democrat's except perhaps Joe Manchin. It almost seems as though a 3rd party may be an option in spite of the downfalls.

A third party is not really the answer as it will eventually succumb to the same pressures the big two do now: special interest money. What we need is a series of independent candidates who are not beholden in any way to a political party with strong, clear and concise ideas. Ideas which can be conveyed to the masses on a simple sixth grade level, put forth via well developed grass roots organizations for the sole reason of furthering the candidate. This is can be done for House candidates, Senators, and even the POTUS. The only reason this isn't being done already is because the average shlub doesn't believe it is possible. The fact is it is far more possible today than it ever was with the advent of Facebook and Twitter. Information is instantaneous. Fund raising could be done by email requests, and literally door to door campaigns, eventually leading up to infomercials, much like Ross Perot did 20 years ago. You want to save America from the machine? Something along these lines is the only way it is going to happen. The fox is staunchly entrenched in the hen houses of the Democrats and Republicans and isn't going anywhere.

 

[muttly]

Ha, yeah.... Racism is not political. It is cultural. It exists equally from far left to far right. as far as who is ignorant and who is not, you might want to relocate from your glass house before you make such a comment....

Racism isn't political? That's funny right there. NOW who is being ignorant? I never said racism doesn't exist. I merely agreed there 'isn't much' in the tea party. No credible evidence that there is either. Just pointing out those who would rather contrive and inflate the amount too. They probably have dubious motives.

 

[letzrockexpress]

Racism isn't political? That's funny right there. NOW who is being ignorant?

This was previously determined.

I never said racism doesn't exist. I merely agreed there 'isn't much' in the tea party.

You couldn't possibly know that.

 

[Big Al]

Getting back to the OP, could this possibly be an endorsement of evaluating people according to their qualifications for a particular job instead of their level of political correctness? How about judging them on the content of their character instead of the color of their skin? But of course this attitude can't possibly be recognized to come from the Tea Party because they've reached the level of influence that becomes a threat to establishment Republicans and liberals in general. They must be isolated, labeled and destroyed according to Alinsky's Rules, and that's the agenda being followed by the MSM. Accordingly, we hear the terms "fringe", "neanderthals", "loonies",and of course "racists". Notice how name-calling is always employed when there's no argument that has a basis in fact.

Totally accurate!

 

[Turtle]

Racism isn't political? That's funny right there.

Maybe it's funny because it's true, I don't know. But while some people use racism for political purposes, racism in and of itself knows no political party or has a political agenda. Racism is universal. There is precisely the same amount of racism in the Tea Party as there is in any other (make that every other) political party.

The charges that the Tea Party is racist, implying somehow that Democrats or Republican or Independents are not, is ridiculous. It's almost as ridiculous as those who say racism in the Tea party doesn't exist. And no, there is no more or less demonstration of racism in the Tea Party or any other party - they all demonstrate their racism equally.

It's pretty amazing to see how many ways the mainstream media are able to analyze and dissect the Tea Party movement on a regular basis. But over the last few years it has been en vogue to challenge this movement on merits of race - a popular ad hominem talking point for opponents of the movement. In the above link, not only are the statements and position incredibly ironic, they are made up. This is where racism is used for political purposes.

It is also used for political purposes when black Tea Party supporters are labeled, by liberal Democrats, as Oreos, traitors and Uncle Toms, and are really taking heat for their involvement in the mostly white Tea Party movement, and for having the audacity to oppose the policies of the nation's first black president. True enough, the Tea Party is mostly white, but so is the Democratic party, and so is America. So, taking pains to point out the Tea party is mostly white, and therefore racist by default, is either silly or despicably evil. Take yer pick.

As a grassroots movement with no registration or formal structure, there are no official racial demographics available for the tea party movement, and thanks to the mainstream media's efforts and the efforts of those opposed to the Tea Party, the common belief is that the Tea Party only includes a tiny fraction of blacks and Hispanics. However, as the initial 2010 Gallup poll and other polls show, the racial and other demographic makeup of the Tea Party almost exactly mirrors that of the nation at large. Because of that, you won't find any more or any less racism than you do in the nation at large.

 

[muttly]

This was previously determined.



You couldn't possibly know that.

As stated previously racism is political.

Dem. Rep Uses Burning Cross to Spell 'Tea Party' | The Weekly Standard

Haven't seen evidence that racism is prevalent in the tea party . I've seen many scurrilous instances of people claiming there is with no evidence. Since they don't have any evidence,but make these claims anyway, you can agree that they are doing so for some ulterior motive and are lacking in integrity, right?

 

[Big Al]

Maybe it's funny because it's true, I don't know. But while some people use racism for political purposes, racism in and of itself knows no political party or has a political agenda. Racism is universal. There is precisely the same amount of racism in the Tea Party as there is in any other (make that every other) political party.

The charges that the Tea Party is racist, implying somehow that Democrats or Republican or Independents are not, is ridiculous. It's almost as ridiculous as those who say racism in the Tea party doesn't exist. And no, there is no more or less demonstration of racism in the Tea Party or any other party - they all demonstrate their racism equally.

It's pretty amazing to see how many ways the mainstream media are able to analyze and dissect the Tea Party movement on a regular basis. But over the last few years it has been en vogue to challenge this movement on merits of race - a popular ad hominem talking point for opponents of the movement. In the above link, not only are the statements and position incredibly ironic, they are made up. This is where racism is used for political purposes.

It is also used for political purposes when black Tea Party supporters are labeled, by liberal Democrats, as Oreos, traitors and Uncle Toms, and are really taking heat for their involvement in the mostly white Tea Party movement, and for having the audacity to oppose the policies of the nation's first black president. True enough, the Tea Party is mostly white, but so is the Democratic party, and so is America. So, taking pains to point out the Tea party is mostly white, and therefore racist by default, is either silly or despicably evil. Take yer pick.

As a grassroots movement with no registration or formal structure, there are no official racial demographics available for the tea party movement, and thanks to the mainstream media's efforts and the efforts of those opposed to the Tea Party, the common belief is that the Tea Party only includes a tiny fraction of blacks and Hispanics. However, as the initial 2010 Gallup poll and other polls show, the racial and other demographic makeup of the Tea Party almost exactly mirrors that of the nation at large. Because of that, you won't find any more or any less racism than you do in the nation at large.

This makes way too much sense. I applaud the "turtle" for bring in the facts which should be obvious to anyone. I guess it's easier to demonize your opponent. During the 50's it was McCarthy'ism from the so called right now the liberals use racism as there charge. I really don't support anyone who hasn't run a business or government where they had to meet a budget regardless of their ethnic background. I will say this about President Obama, his schooling has been in privileged schools. Not so much as Ivy League but Punahou school in Hawaii. I couldn't get my children in there when I was stationed in Hawaii. Tuition is $20,000 a year this year. They learn quite a bit about Hawaiian culture but it is very limited to CONUS culture. I guess that's not racist on my part I just don't see how he understands my plight. Best schools and I am reasonably sure was heavily involved in grants, then working in Chicago area which seems so far removed from other Americana. I am not a racist for tea party. I am a Harry Truman type of guy who thinks we are as a Nation going the wrong direction fast. I wasn't excited about McCain or Romney. Oh well, I am excited about Dr Ben Carson.

 

[muttly]

Good post Turtle. My original post was agreeing with Big Al that he 'has seen almost no evidence of racism'. That statement implies that he has seen a very small amount '.My statement was in agreeing with him because there 'isn't much'. NOT THAT IT DOESN'T EXIST at all. It was followed by another post, which you could infer from, that if you merely look for it, you will see that it is prevalent, meaning more than some,which Is inaccurate.