Well this white boy grew up in south central Los Angeles in the 50's. I am a member of the tea party and I am for Dr Ben Carson for President. Previously I was for Herman Cain. Does this make me a Tea Party racist. My hero Harry Truman would not be welcome in either party these days especially the Democrat party. My neighborhood was ground central during the Rodney King riots, that was halfway to my Junior High School. According to the secular news I am not supposed to exist. Any thoughts?
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pandora2112
Seasoned Expediter
According to "normal" people neither do I! 
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Perhaps I should have stated the usual talking head news :ABC, NBC & CBS. LOL Once upon a time these were real news people. Newspapers reported the news throughout the newspaper and opinions were restricted to the editorial page. Now there is a little news in the story with a lot of opinion. Wow that's soapbox."Secular news"?
Ditto on that. At least someone with business experience.
I think some Expediters on here would do better, especially when it came to thinking on your feet and running a business. How many business's are not hiring because of Obama Care or throttling hours because of the 30 hour full time requirement. We'll probably never know.
RLENT
Veteran Expediter
Yes, just one:
Principled opposition to Obama, his philosophy, and policies does not preclude the possibility of racism as a motivating factor for some ...
I guess I really don't understand this, do you know who Cain and Carson are?? If I was a racist why would I be for Herman Cain and Dr Ben Carson. Grew up in Southern California and was stationed twice in Hawaii. Now Hawaii has some racism. Most racism that was existent in my younger days was institutional,i.e. police,government,etc. ; however, that's been pretty well done away with. Individual racism will probably exist till the end of time. I really like the Navy's policy on racism: be as racist as you want but don't let it affect your job and the way you treat people. Would you consider Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton racist?
RLENT
Veteran Expediter
Yes ...
Who said anything about you being a racist ?
I was just making a general comment ... one that applies only to some subset of those who are against Obama ...
Largely opportunistic ones, yes ...Would you consider Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton racist?
Should racism be a part of a general comment. I think not, it's like molestation charge your guilty until proven innocent. Who knows what a persons motivation is unless the evidence exists. That's why I mentioned Jackson & Sharpton their history proves they are contrary to Martin Luther King's color blind society. People in the news media often refer to Tea Party folks as racists. I have seen almost no evidence of this, Tea Party folks are concerned about spending money we don't have!
But the Tea Party people weren't concerned about spending money we don't have on wars we didn't need to engage in, were they?
They want less spending, but only on the programs & services they have no use for. They want less regulation, but never specify what regulations they mean, exactly.
They want lower taxes for business, in spite of the evidence that it would not help the economy: the economy did very well when business taxes were higher, and when they were lowered, the savings didn't 'trickle down' to boost spending, nor did it increase hiring - they simply made more profit. And kept it.
They also want smaller government, so I wonder why they don't just move to a smaller country.
They want less spending, but only on the programs & services they have no use for. They want less regulation, but never specify what regulations they mean, exactly.
They want lower taxes for business, in spite of the evidence that it would not help the economy: the economy did very well when business taxes were higher, and when they were lowered, the savings didn't 'trickle down' to boost spending, nor did it increase hiring - they simply made more profit. And kept it.
They also want smaller government, so I wonder why they don't just move to a smaller country.
paullud
Veteran Expediter
You really need to educate yourself on who the Tea Party is and what they want. Perhaps most importantly you might understand that although Tea Party members run with an R next to their name they don't just tow the party line. The Tea Party wanted to get us out of Iraq and worked with Code Pink to freeze Pentagon spending. Instead of just taking on the misinformed liberal idea of who or what the Tea Party is try to do some thinking and researching on your own.
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After the past few weeks, it's pretty obvy the TP doesn't 'tow [sic] the party line', lol.
And please quit the snarky remarks like "misinformed liberal idea of who or what the Tea Party is" because I took the points directly from the TP's own website. Less government spending: check. Lower taxes on business: check. Less regulation: check. Smaller government: check.
My response to those points is my own thinking and observation, though - not from their website.
After the past few weeks, it's pretty obvy the TP doesn't 'tow [sic] the party line', lol.
And please quit the snarky remarks like "misinformed liberal idea of who or what the Tea Party is" because I took the points directly from the TP's own website. Less government spending: check. Lower taxes on business: check. Less regulation: check. Smaller government: check.
My response to those points is my own thinking and observation, though - not from their website.
So...less government spending....you want more?
Lower taxes on business....you want business taxed more?
Less regulation, but you want more?
Smaller government, and you want larger government?
Certainly see a difference.
paullud
Veteran Expediter
After the past few weeks, it's pretty obvy the TP doesn't 'tow [sic] the party line', lol.
And please quit the snarky remarks like "misinformed liberal idea of who or what the Tea Party is" because I took the points directly from the TP's own website. Less government spending: check. Lower taxes on business: check. Less regulation: check. Smaller government: check.
My response to those points is my own thinking and observation, though - not from their website.
The Republican party was divided on the shutdown, the Tea Party wing was fighting with other Republicans like McCain. You incorrectly claimed that the Tea Party had no problem spending money on wars that we shouldn't have engaged in which is exactly what the liberals want misinformed people to believe. Why are you addressing the other points since I never disagreed with those?
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RLENT
Veteran Expediter
Your premise above is silly.
You asked for thoughts in your original post - I gave you mine ... which were of a general nature ... and which really had nothing whatsoever to do with you personally, since I don't know you personally.
Yup ...
Then you aren't really looking ...
That is supposedly one of their concerns ... unless it deals with the spending of money in an area they want money spent in (such as medicare and the military as but two examples)
Isn't more taxes, bigger govt and more regulation what every small businessman and owner-operator wants? Who wouldn't want to give more of their profits to politicians to spend as they see fit, without limits (or a debt ceiling)? Why shouldn't these same politicians be able to regulate the types of equipment we use and how we use it? Maybe we should have more toll roads also, like NY and NJ. Yessiree - business owners always do better when the govt takes a higher percentage of their hard-earned money. I'm sure every owner-operator on this website understands that basic economic principle.
The reason you have seen almost no evidence of racism in the tea party is because there isn't much. You ARE looking hard enough. You are right about the news media. They are trying to tag the tea party as a bunch of racists to discredit them. People who do this aren't omitted from being ignorant.
Trying something completely new and different huh?
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