Close to the end of the Great Recession - Only the Shadow knows

Dreammaker

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Leading Indicators Say “The End is Near”

Posted By Barry Ritholtz On July 27, 2009 @ 9:15 am In Economy | 3 Comments

I saved this from Saturday’s Off the Charts column by Floyd Norris:

THE American recession appears to be nearing an end, but only after it has become the deepest downturn in more than half a century.

The index of leading indicators, which signals turning points in the economy, is rising at a rate that has accurately indicated the end of every recession since the index began to be compiled in 1959.

The index was reported this week to have risen for the third consecutive month in June, and to have risen at a 12.8 percent annual rate over those three months. Such a rise, pointed out Harm Bandholz, an economist with UniCredit Group, “has always marked the end of the contraction.” Mr. Bandholz said he expected that the National Bureau of Economic Research, the official arbiter of American economic cycles, would eventually conclude that the recession bottomed out in August or September of this year.

Why isn’t the Conference Board ready to declare the recession over? The index of coincident indicators — now down for eight consecutive months (down 17 of the last 19 months). That indicator is often used by the National Bureau of Economic Research in making dating decisions, and its failure to stabilize is likely why we haven’t seen any declaration that the downturn is officially over yet.

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Source:
Leading Indicators Are Signaling the Recession’s End [2]
Floyd Norris
NYT, July 24, 2009
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/25/business/economy/25charts.html
 

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greg334

Veteran Expediter
OK I don't get this one....

I don't see any recovery, no jobs were being created, the dollar is not stronger and ..... my state has the highest U5 unemployement rate ever - something like 21.5% with the nation's U5 being at 10.8%....

There is still a problem with Credit and a lot of commercial paper is going to be due in late September/October - it was this time last year we were really hit hard with this "credit crunch" and it was on the commercial side of the economy that most of this happened... nothing has really changed to indicate that the credit needed to run these business has been available enough to help the economy. Companies are still having a hard time getting credit to refinance their debt and because of the fiasco of GM and Chrysler, credit is harder to get for companies running on thin margins.

I think that this series of 'the worst is over' articles is being staged to make people think that 1 - Obama's policies work and we should not question his wisedom 2 - we can now raise taxes for things like Health Care and other programs that Obama wants to see in our country.

It all looks like Italy in the late 20's....
 

Dreammaker

Seasoned Expediter
I have no skin in this game. You will notice that the lagging and coincident indicators for the most part are still negative. Those indicators coincide with your observations. So, it looks like a good news/bad news scenario - leading indicators are up, coincident and lagging indicators are still down - and in some cases considerably down. If I understand the leading indicators correctly, they point out the near to mid term future and have been correct in forecasting an end to a recession since the model was put together in 1959. If you look at the graph of the current and past contractions, just coming out of a recession does not necessarily indicate clear waters ahead; hence, the current economic conversation about a V recession (single dip) or a W recession (double dip). Whether they are tinkering with the model to promote Obama's agenda is for each of our speculation. Here is the conference board"s recent report:

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Released: Monday, July 20, 2009

The Conference Board Leading Economic Index™ (LEI) for the U.S. increased 0.7 percent, The Conference Board Coincident Economic Index™ (CEI) decreased 0.2 percent and The Conference Board Lagging Economic Index™ (LAG) decreased 0.7 percent in June.

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* The Conference Board LEI for the U.S. increased for the third consecutive month in June. Most of the components contributed positively to the index this month except real money supply* and manufacturers' new orders for nondefense capital goods*. The six-month change in the index has risen to 2.0 percent (a 4.1 percent annual rate) in the period through June, up substantially from - 3.1 percent (a –6.2 percent annual rate) for the previous six months, and the strengths among the leading indicators have remained balanced with the weaknesses in recent months.
* The Conference Board CEI for the U.S. continued to decrease in June, amid further contractions in employment and industrial production. Between December 2008 and June 2009, the index fell 3.0 percent (a –5.9 percent annual rate), slightly faster than the decline of 2.8 percent (a –5.6 percent annual rate) for the previous six months. In June, the lagging economic index for the U.S. fell more than the coincident economic index, and the coincident-to-lagging ratio increased, as a result. Meanwhile, real GDP fell at a 5.5 percent annual rate in the first quarter of 2009, following a contraction of 6.3 percent annual rate in the fourth quarter of 2008.
* The Conference Board LEI for the U.S. has risen for three consecutive months now, after having fallen steadily since reaching a peak in July 2007. With these large and widespread gains, its six month growth has picked up to the highest rate since the first quarter of 2006. Meanwhile, The Conference Board CEI for the U.S., measuring current economic activity, remains on a downtrend, but the pace of its decline has moderated somewhat in recent months. All in all, the behavior of the composite indexes suggest that the recession will continue to ease and that the economy may begin to recover in the near term.

LEADING INDICATORS. Seven of the ten indicators that make up The Conference Board LEI for the U.S. increased in June. The positive contributors – beginning with the largest positive contributor – were interest rate spread, building permits, stock prices, weekly initial claims (inverted), average weekly manufacturing hours, index of supplier deliveries (vendor performance), and manufacturers' new orders for consumer goods and materials*. The negative contributors – beginning with the largest negative contributor – were real money supply*, manufacturers' new orders for nondefense capital goods*, and index of consumer expectations.

The Conference Board LEI for the U.S. now stands at 100.9 (2004=100). Based on revised data, this index increased 1.3 percent in May and increased 1.0 percent in April. During the six-month span through June, the leading economic index increased 2.0 percent, with five out of ten components advancing (diffusion index, six-month span equals 50 percent).

COINCIDENT INDICATORS. Two of the four indicators that make up The Conference Board CEI for the U.S. increased in June. The positive contributors to the index – beginning with the largest positive contributor – were personal income less transfer payments* and manufacturing and trade sales*. The negative contributors – beginning with the largest negative contributor – were employees on nonagricultural payrolls and industrial production.

The Conference Board CEI for the U.S. now stands at 100.3 (2004=100). This index decreased 0.3 percent in May and decreased 0.3 percent in April. During the six-month period through June, the coincident economic index decreased 3.0 percent, with none of the four components advancing (diffusion index, six-month span equals 0.0 percent).

LAGGING INDICATORS. The Conference Board LAG for the U.S. stands at 110.8 (2004=100) in June, with none of the seven components advancing. The negative contributors – beginning with the largest negative contributor – were commercial and industrial loans outstanding*, average duration of unemployment (inverted), change in labor cost per unit of output*, change in CPI for services, the ratio of manufacturing and trade inventories to sales*, and the ratio of consumer installment credit to personal income*. The average prime rate charged by banks held steady in June. Based on revised data, the lagging economic index decreased 0.4 percent in May and decreased 0.9 percent in April.

DATA AVAILABILITY AND NOTES. The data series used to compute The Conference Board Leading Economic Index™ (LEI) for the U.S., The Conference Board Coincident Economic Index™ (CEI) for the U.S. and The Conference Board Lagging Economic Index™ (LAG) for the U.S. and reported in the tables in this release are those available "as of" 12 Noon on July 17, 2009. Some series are estimated as noted below.

* Series in The Conference Board LEI for the U.S. based on our estimates are manufacturers' new orders for consumer goods and materials, manufacturers' new orders for nondefense capital goods, and the personal consumption expenditure used to deflate the money supply. Series in The Conference Board CEI for the U.S. that are based on our estimates are personal income less transfer payments and manufacturing and trade sales. Series in The Conference Board LAG for the U.S. that are based on our estimates are inventories to sales ratio, consumer installment credit to income ratio, change in labor cost per unit of output, and the personal consumption expenditure used to deflate commercial and industrial loans outstanding.

The procedure used to estimate the current month's personal consumption expenditure deflator (used in the calculation of real money supply and commercial and industrial loans outstanding) now incorporates the current month's consumer price index when it is available before the release of The Conference Board LEI for the U.S.
 

hdxpedx

Veteran Expediter
Fleet Owner
Best INDICATOR I've found is-- FRT. MOVING?? or I'm I'm SITTING with a CHEAPER CONTRACT? THE LATTER IS FACT!! obumer TV indicators speaks with a MOUTHFUL of CROW FEATHERS!
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
hdxpedx hit it, is freigjt moving...nope...we all here are in the one industry that shows the true picture...just so happens that on another board i frequent the following article was posted from the OP'ers website. It is too long and has a handful of charts to show what is going on in the Trucking industry...here is a little bit of it, and the link...take the time to read it and look over the charts....we are far for any recovery....:

Shenandoah Smoke, Mirrors, Distortion, Hope and Change - The Earnings Pump Myth Part 1- Transportation

Smoke, Mirrors, Distortion, Hope and Change - The Earnings Pump Myth Part 1- Transportation

by John Galt
July 27, 2009


Earnings Reports Give Stocks Big Boost - Washington Post, July 26, 2009

Dow tops 9000 as optimism reigns - Chicago Tribune, July 24, 2009

Beyond Dow 9,000: Pisani Sees New Bull Signs - Bubblevision aka CNBC, July 24, 2009

Bulls back as Dow closes above 9000 - Christian Science Monitor, July 23, 2009

I could go on and on and on and on and on with the various television sound bite prognosticators, the endless newspaper headlines and hype pieces from the financial press, there are at least a few brave souls out there on television and radio who are warning about the underlying rot in the so-called economic recovery underway. Historically speaking, the duration of this recession should be coming to an end as 18 to 20 months is the norm yet it would appear we will be approaching the two year mark before any noticeable cessation or flatlining in the decline can be realistically noticed.


With part one of this series, I shall start by focusing on the transportation aspect of this situation since that is my primary area of expertise. I know this factoid disturbs a lot of my critics but sadly yes, I read, managed and helped create P&L statements in my life so thus my ability to present pertinent facts will upset the POLLYKNEALES of the world, but hang in there Dennis, that piece of tin is still flying your way.


On to the 2nd Quarter reports of importance thus far….


For the alphabet impaired and for the ease of accessibility on my hard drive, we shall start with ABF (Arkansas Best Freightways Full 8K here) which should start to paint a picture that the green shoots being sprayed like bull **** are not what they seem....


There is a chart here, go to the link above to see it and the rest of them and to read the complete article

Truck tonnage, rail, air freight , ship and container tonnage are all down....reefer freight as in food stuff is still moving and moving good...but nothing else is...people are not spending money, un-employment is the worse it has been in a long time and will get worse...stores are stocking inventory and the economy is not recovering as minions would have you think.....
 
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ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
Like many others, I read stories like this and form opinions about the economy and the conditions that affect expediters. When doing so, I find it best to monitor my own wishful thinking and to keep my desire to be right in check. Both can get in the way of clear thinking. They can be kept in check by making the case for one scenario, and then working just as hard to make the case for contrary scenarios.

If one concludes that the recession is going to continue for many more months, the desire to be right and defend that opinion kicks in. Once an opinion is formed and committed to, future articles may be read with that bias in mind. Information that supports the opinion may subconsciously be given more weight than information that contradicts it.

It works the same way with wishful thinking. If there is an emotional need to believe something to be true -- like the recession is over and good times are ahead (and I won't lose my house and truck) -- information that plays to the emotional need may be given more weight than it deserves and decision making can be clouded.

I have seen emotional reasoning hurt people I know when selling their houses. A couple wants to sell their house and they are not upside down in the mortgage. They can sell the house if they want to but only at today's market price.

Having seen their neighbor's house sell for more not so long ago, they are unwilling to take the lower price. Ignoring market realities, they yield to their emotional need to do as well as their neighbor did and to be right. For years, they have been telling people how much their house is worth and how buying their house was the best investment they ever made. Loathe to put it on the public record that the house sold for a lower price, they hold out for a higher price but do not get it. Time passes. More time passes. The house value continues to decline. Finally the need to sell the house trumps the emotional pain they tried to avoid and they dump the thing at a fire sale price. Because they heeded their emotions and relied on hope for a better price, they ended up suffering even greater emotional and financial pain.

In many financial decisions, the logical thing is to take a loss and move on. But taking a loss is a very difficult thing for most people to do.

Back to expediting, as I consider the current data and trends, I try to prepare mentally and financially for three scenarios:

1. The economy will rebound soon and expediting along with it.

2. The economy may finally hit the bottom people are looking for, and not rise, but move sideways with no further decline and no further growth for a long time.

3. Any rise we see in the economy will be short term. The "double dip" that some economists are talking about will occur. The economic decline will resume and the recession will continue.

Best to prepare for all three scenarios, I believe. I am an optimist by nature but not blind. As much as Diane and I would love to stay in expediting for many years ahead, if the money is not there, it is not there, and it makes no financial sense to stay in the business.

Even if the economy picks up at some point, there is nothing to say the money to be made in expediting will return to previous levels. We are watching the economy, of course. We are watching even closer the numbers in our one-truck, owner-operator, expditing business.

We had a great year in 2007. Revenues in 2008 declined from that level. Projected revenues for 2009 will be less than 2008. In that same time frame, the value of our truck depreciated as happens to every truck on the road. Unexpected was the accelerated rate of decline when new truck sales plunged, used truck sales plunged, and their values along with them.

We did not get into expediting to break even or just get by. We got in to prosper. Our net worth continues to rise and we remain profitable in 2009, just not as much as in 2007 and 2008.

I have never felt as good about being an expediter as I felt when we walked out of this year's Expedite Expo...and I have never been so prepared to leave the industry as I am right now.

Whatever happens to the industry, we will NEVER let happen to us what we have seen happen to many others (even in good times). Namely, that we will spend years hauling freight and have no money to show for it at the end.

Don't get me wrong. We do not want to leave the industry and we have no immediate plans to do so. We also don't want to make the emotionally-driven mistake many homeowners and expediters have made by hanging on too long and bailing out too late.
 
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oncedrove

Expert Expediter
Michigan to D.C.: We're drowning

Starting late next month, the number of people exhausting their jobless benefits will balloon. By year's end, roughly 100,000 laid-off workers will have lost their unemployment pay, which softens the blow of joblessness by up to $362 a week, plus a $25 federal supplement.

Which, if you believe in vicious downward cycles, will cause more foreclosures, more joblessness as purchasing power dwindles, more demand for already strained services like Medicaid and Michigan's pathetically weak welfare program, and more pressure on food banks and other nonprofits.

This jaw-dropping increase in the number of people losing benefits does not necessarily reflect a precise spate of layoffs. More likely it's attributable to when federal extensions of unemployment benefits became available, and people who previously ran out of eligibility came back on the rolls in bursts.

However the spike developed, these are truly scary numbers: 25,689 more people without benefits by year's end in Wayne County, 10,884 in Oakland and 10,158 in Macomb. United Way CEO Mike Brennan talks a good game about ways everyone can pitch in, but he concedes that demand will outstrip the region's capacity to help itself.

Michigan to D.C.: We're drowning | Freep.com | Detroit Free Press




Recession part 2 will start as soon 5 million people on unemployment run out of unemployment.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
The united way has some strict requirements for their help.

With that said, it is time for a change in michigan, maybe if people wake up and realize that Jenny put them in the streets, maybe they won't pull that democrat level next time.

I had a good time with a few hard core dems who finally agree with me. If Jenny would stop this vacation scam of going to far away places to have companies tell her "maybe we will look at Michigan" and focus on what the other states, like California and New York are doing to their businesses, maybe just maybe she could properly promote the state and they could come here and create some jobs. Nah... I was just dreaming, her trip to Greenland and then to the Antartic is scheduled for end of August, maybe we will have a penguin industry out of that trip?

The big deal now is Quicken Loans are moving to Detroit. The state and region gave them something like $43 million in tax breaks for them to move from Livonia to Detroit, creating no jobs in the process.
 

EASYTRADER

Expert Expediter
I don't think things are really improving. I do think the government has reasons to want us to think things are improving so they squew the economic recovery numbers. This is not my opinion by the way, in the 70,s when the american people got wise to government spending they just changed the accounting rules, so now the budget increases by 7% a year automatically and they don't call that an increase. During the Clinton years they changed the way unemployment is calculated, if you use the Pre-Clinton metric national real unemployment is actually around 16% already.

As for inflation, well a Taco that cost 59 cents five years ago is now .99 cents. (Taco Bell)
so that's around 8 percent a year, I'm not in the mood to do the math on it. The point is the Fed has been telling us inflation has been running at 2-3% since Reagan. Its bullcrap.

They are deceiving the people.

Anyway, things wont get much worse, unless Obama passes healthcare or cap-N-trade. Having said that things aren't gonna get significantly better any time soon. It will be years.
The economic growth in the future will be driven by population growth. Unless we trim the national spending to GDP burden back to less than 16% percent were gonna turn into France, which has a perpetual unemployment rate of 10%. (That they Admit)

Elections do matter.
As for the rising stock market - that is mainly caused by short covering, and inflation hedging. Stocks are calculated in Dollars, so as the dollar weakens the market will rise. This isnt always the cause for market increases but it is what is happening now. Most of the companies are NOT reporting sales growth. Some are but most are not. Sales and earning growth are what add REAL value to a stock.

However having said, that. I am long the market and have been since the panic ceased in March.

My point is, the market rally is not signaling economic recovery, its signally the meltdown is over for now, and the next worry is inflation.

Incidentally there really is nothing you can personally do about it, so your better off to not follow the economic news. But rather focus on running a TIGHT business. Even if we go into a 10 year economic decline the only person you have to be better than is the truck next to you, if you stay in business long enough eventually the truck to freight will balance and you'll make money again.

Same with unemployment - Even in the the Great depression things weren't so bad, if-n you had a job.

In the long run if you want to leave a better country for your children than the one you were handed, you have to vote right. Anytime a person in office makes a promise that includes spending more money or increasing the size of the government you have to vote them out.
As long as the Federal Government consumes 30 percent of GDP things wont get better for your personal wealth. Eventually you will be enslaved, which we aren't too far from now.

from 1790 untill 1910 the Government consumed less than 10% of gdp, this country was NOT built by government but by the LACK of government, since 1910 the government has consumed an average of 25% of GDP, we are now over 30%.

You may think things are economically better for the average citizen than they were say in 1885, but what you are missing is that the higher standard of living has been caused by technology not by massive economic spending by the government.

Ask yourself how much better you would be if you had a 30% pay increase coupled with zero inflation.

By the way another thing I forgot to mention is part of the 1790 to 1910 statistics is the absence of inflation, except for a brief period during the Civil War. Inflation was nonexistent.

Actually there was DEFLATION, which makes it possible for the average person to mattress save and not go under. 100 us dollars in 1900 actually purchased more than in 1800, lol those days are long gone unless you start voting right, and get the government
back in check.

Everytime a politician promise you more government service, the cash in your pocket gets worth less because they print more to pay for the service.

Anyway I hate having this knowledge, because I know behind the fascaud of prosperity our country is dieing about the best you can hope for is a dissolved Union, which will push power back to the states and incidently correct the spending to GDP overnight, in the majority of states.
 
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