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[poison]

I see alot of bashing and bad mouthing panther I tell you folks panther is not the only trucks sitting. In el pisso,tx. we had 5-6 panther trucks sitting when we were there.We seen I know 4 fed x trucks sitting and a couple of tri-state trucks and 1 or 2 expediting companies I have never even heard of, all waiting for a load. from what I see and read on here people, we are in the slow period.it's just something that us newbies as you call us have to get use to and the rest have to realize."thats the nature of the business" or so I hear.
thats just my opinion









If a man speaks on the beach where no woman can hear is he still wrong?

 

[cheri1122]

The only comment I have here, is that terms like "el pisso" are vulgarisms we can do without, ok?

 

[FAMILYEXPDT]

vulgarism? wow...that was way mild Cheri....I never comment on stuff mods do but that seems a bit too whip cracking for me. Having a bad day? Texas is slow atm and yes, it appears as if the 4th quarter may be a repeat of last year.



-charlotte

 

[cheri1122]

Not having a bad day, just got a nice load, (thank you, Rev. David, if it's that prayer thing, ) I just don't like vulgarity, and think we can do better without it, that's all I'm saying.

 

[dieseldiva]

> The only comment I have here, is that terms like "el pisso"
>are vulgarisms we can do without, ok?

That's right, everyone knows we're far too busy on here to deal with childish little nicknames for the places that we consider to be "expediter #####". (oops, can I say that?) We'd much rather have intelligent? discussions on the word penis!!

Keep praying Dave.

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[LDB]

Although it would be low on the 1-10 scale it isn't a professional term. Other than in the loading dock for jokes etc. or the soapbox for tempers etc. it would be nice to keep it strictly professional in the remaining forums. EO is known as the professional expediter's home. The serious forums should uphold that reputation.

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[FAMILYEXPDT]

ROFL

 

[hondaking38]

i checked the dictionary el-pisso is not a word, so how can it possibly be vulgar??? unless you have a dirty mind to begin with!!

 

[LDB]

Let's stay current and on topic and not drag dead horses back into the arena.

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[Doggie Daddy]

>Let's stay current and on topic and not drag dead horses
>back into the arena.
>

I agree,because what is vulgur today may not be vulgar tommorow.It just depends on the mood of the moderators.DD.
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[x06col]

Actually, your ragging on the fella, was pretty sad there MS. mod.

 

[are12]

Back to the subject.....

Is it really getting slow out here or is it that too many are getting into expediting??

Take a look around, how many expedite trucks are sitting in the same location as you? Is this business starting to get overloaded with trucks?

 

[x06col]

Are you slow ARE?

 

[are12]

Let me put it this way, we are not as busy this year as we were last year at this time.

 

[Fr8 Shaker]

Take a look around, how many expedite trucks are sitting in the same location as you? Is this business starting to get overloaded with trucks
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Starting ? Are you kidding me? This business has been overloaded for 6 to 10 years now, with some people still encourageing others to get into the business. Hey it's like a paid vacation, make money and get to see the country.

Before this business got overloaded, the truck used to make more on the run than the company you were leased to. not anymore. But then again the truck had the majority of the expense. Oh! we still have the majority of the expense. Go Figure.

One of the problems is that alot of expeditors if not most of them today haven't been in this business long enough to know that. And you seem to think that what you are getting paid per mile is good money as long as the company keeps you rolling with good runs. For any solo out there if your spouse isn't working or doesn't have a good income I don't see how you can make it. Paying a morgage/rent plus all the other household bills on top of truck expenses especially if your driving for an owner. For just a driver I mean fuel and for some workmans comp. ins. figured I'd throw that in before someone corrected me that drivers for owners don't pay truck expenses.

 

[miguy1957]

Ive got a point for some of the o/o with 8 to 10 yrs in this business to ponder. How much less do you net per mile now than you did 8 to 10 yrs ago, and how many less paid miles do you get than you did then? So I guess my question how much of a pay cut has been taken in this industry??

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[ATeam]

Outstanding question! Here's one reader hoping for specific, factual answers that come from accurate business records; and hoping for industry analysis that is based on more than looking out the window and counting trucks that happen to be sitting where you are.

It happens often that Diane and I are dispatched a day, two, and sometimes even three ahead of the pickup. The single load we are waiting to pick up may pay as much as three shorter loads the we might otherwise run in the same week.

Someone looking at us sitting in the same place for that long, and wanting to justify an alredy formed opinion that "things are slow" would be inclined to use our sitting truck as evidence that supports the analysis. Just because trucks are sitting does not mean they are not busy. Some may be taking two days off to sleep because their carrier has run their wheels off.

 

[davekc]

I will answer your question based on MY experience. Others may be different. What you see today is much different than 10 years ago.
Profit margins are lower just from a simple supply and demand issue.
10 years ago our rate was double with a fraction of the expenses. Fuel, trucks, labor, you name it, and it was cheaper. The carrier actually paid hotel rooms etc. if you had to do a layover between runs. Try asking for that now.
Anyone that tells the margins are just as high or higher now is a liar. Simple as that.
HOS has been a real killer to the solos. No other way to color it unless they are running under the radar or dedicated.
Just not enough profit in it verses the potential liability.
Now, one has to operate much differently to achieve adequate returns. This includes more interaction with the carrier as well as booking some of your own freight. Loads that may have went out west then DH back are no longer feasible. Fuel prices will erode any profit that probably existed in that load.
The other option is to obtain your own authority.
Some argue that they don't or won't do a load out of a carriers system. Regardless of the carrier, I see few and far between loads that justify sitting for extended periods of time.
The good news is that there are opportunities, but one has to work those when they become available. Working lean, using technology, and good business acumen and one can be profitable.











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[Pappy]

To start with, I'm not exactly what the majority of you folks would consider an expediter! I drive a tractor trailer for a private carrier. Most of the time, I haul a load of my companies product out and then dead-head back, sometimes as much as a thousand miles. On occasions, my boss will use a broker for a back-haul. However, he will not touch any CHEAP FREIGHT! Secondly, the back-haul must come within 100 miles of our home facility.
The best part about all this is---I get paid by the hour and at a slightly better than Teamsters pay rate.
Please do'nt misunderstand me though. I was an owner operator for more than half of my almost 37 years driving career.
Have any of you kept up with how many trucking companies have closed the doors and filed bankruptcy this year? Well, The numbers are astounding! Things are slow now as they have been for a while. I'm satisfied knowing I'll get paid for 48 mhours if I just sit home all week!
Expediting is a business---And expediters or business people should prepare and stay prepared for difficult times. When times get tough, the tough get going or chose the alternative and find another occupation!

Pappy

 

[greg334]

>Outstanding question! Here's one reader hoping for specific,
>factual answers that come from accurate business records;
>and hoping for industry analysis that is based on more than
>looking out the window and counting trucks that happen to be
>sitting where you are.
>
>It happens often that Diane and I are dispatched a day, two,
>and sometimes even three ahead of the pickup. The single
>load we are waiting to pick up may pay as much as three
>shorter loads the we might otherwise run in the same week.

Phil,
I am totally confused.

What does the first paragraph have to do with the second paragraph and can you provide an answer to the outstanding question? I know I can't.