Casey Anthony: US mother on trial over toddler death

cheri1122

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I get that, and agree. I mean these high dollar lawyers that take these cases pro bono. I don't see the return for them other than fame.

attorneys are like actors: there's no such thing as too much fame.
:rolleyes:
Most certainly don't look good, especially when their client is led away in shackles.

How do they look bad for defending human garbage that the public prefers seeing led away in shackles, because 'somebody's gotta do it', right? [And they don't gotta do it pro bono, either.]

I also doubt they do it for another other reason than the attention.

Yeah, probably 99.9% do it for the media attention, but there are some who practice according to their principles, and those few are on the defense side of the table. [The prosecution is for political wannabees, lol.]
 

Brisco

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I get that, and agree. I mean these high dollar lawyers that take these cases pro bono. I don't see the return for them other than fame. Most certainly don't look good, especially when their client is led away in shackles. I also doubt they do it for another other reason than the attention.

Mainly they do it for the "Post" fame that comes with high profile cases. After this little girl is found guilty and sent to death row, Jose Baez will go on to write a book about the trial, give interviews for money, consult with producers and directors on all the movies that are sure to come out, and so on. (How many movies were made about Amy Fisher and Joey Buttafuco??? 5-6??? I liked the one with Alyssa Milano the best!:D)

One of Casey Anthonys attorneys has already been involved in a major high profile death penalty case.

J. Cheney Mason, Orlando, Florida Criminal Defense, Divorce, and Entertainment Law Lawyer Attorney

Mason defended 4 time murderer Nelson Cerrano.

Nelson Serrano - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Serrano was ultimately found guilty and sent to death row. (research the murder, very very unigue story on how the murders took place and how much planning Serrano put in his plot to murder these 4 people)

Mason lost that case, but still went on to being a sought out attorney by high profile clients.

So, Jose Baez only took this case pad his resume and to reap the benefits that are going to come about whether Casey is found guilty or not. (well, after today, WHEN Casey Anthony is found GUILTY. I don't see how in the hell Baez can recover from his own opening statements)
 

Brisco

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And....

While I cannot stand drama queen Nancy Grace, I'm so intrigued about what happened today, I am sitting here with her show on catching up with happened today in the courtroom.

Gawd help me..................:eek:
 

cheri1122

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Good thing for her. There would be no need for a trial.

Sure there would - please read my post #18.
But that said, for those of us who have been keeping up with the case [I've been interested because one of my daughters lives near Orlando], it's clear that Casey Anthony has changed her story too many times to count, lied to everyone from her parents to the police, partied during the month before reporting her daughter 'missing', and she has a history of theft [from her parents, no less], drugs, and irresponsible choices.
The 'defense' presented is so absurd it would be laughable - if not for the death of a beautiful 3 year old child. The child Ms Anthony didn't appear to miss very much in the photos of her enjoying herself at parties during the 30 days that elapsed before she reported her daughter missing.
She deserves a trial, and she's getting it. Too bad she won't get the punishment she deserves, as it's called "cruel and unusual" - though it isn't the first, and shouldn't be the latter, IMO.
 

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But that said, for those of us who have been keeping up with the case [I've been interested because one of my daughters lives near Orlando], it's clear that Casey Anthony has changed her story too many times to count, lied to everyone from her parents to the police, partied during the month before reporting her daughter 'missing', and she has a history of theft [from her parents, no less], drugs, and irresponsible choices.
Good thing you're not on the jury, then. ;)
 

cheri1122

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It's hard enough to read about the death of children at the hands of a mentally ill parent - but Casey Anthony hasn't even tried to put on that defense - she just keeps changing her story when new evidence is found. And the latest, that her father abused her, and she was scared of him, is even less plausible than the one where she gave the child to a babysitter [that no one ever saw or could find any trace of] and never saw her again.
So, what the h#ll, may as well party on, eh?:mad:
 

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Clearly this woman is really fupped, but it may very well end up that the least plausible reason for it all is the underlying cause. Doesn't excuse it, of course, but there's definitely something there that's not quite right.

I will admit that I haven't been following this at all (because that would be admitting to watching Nancy Grace, which I don't do, and wouldn't admit to even if I did). I vaguely recall reading or hearing something about it when it first happened, but I've learned far more about it from this thread than I knew previously.
 

Brisco

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......because that would be admitting to watching Nancy Grace, which I don't do, and wouldn't admit to even if I did.....

Was that a subliminal <snort>???

Now that I look back at admitting I was watching Nancy Grace, I have deep hollow feeling inside. A mistake I'll never make again.:p
 

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Oh, I dunno. Sometimes you need to watch a little of this and a little of that just to know where others are coming from. I generally get my fill of Nancy Grace when I'm ordering something at one of the fast food places in a truckstop and she's on the TV. By the time my food gets sacked up, I've have enough. :)
 

greg334

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Mentally ill?

Think again.

BUT because she isn't important to actually the world outside of her and her family, I can't see the real purpose of following this or any related story. The kid got killed, there is no real justice unless the person is dealt with severely and I don't see it happening. I say release her out in the public or let her plead to a lesser charge and put her in the general population.
 

Brisco

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......there is no real justice unless the person is dealt with severely and I don't see it happening. I say release her out in the public or let her plead to a lesser charge and put her in the general population.

This reminds of a very controversial episode of "In The Heat Of The Night" that aired back in the late 80's. It was during season 2, and the episode was "A Trip Upstate".

The plot was where Chief Gillipsie went to witness the execution of a death row inmate he helped arrest as a rookie.

There was a lot of talk about the death penalty in the script all throughout the episode, but the very ending caught everyone off guard.

Watch this video here. It was the closest/shortest video I could find that showed what caused such a controversy.

YouTube - ‪Caloosavista2008's Channel‬&rlm;

Fast Forward to the 12:00 minute mark and listen to Gillipsies and Tubbs thoughts about Torture and Execution. Not that controversial.........

At the 13:20 minute mark, PAY CLOSE ATTENTION to what Chief Gillipsie has to say about No Torturing before Execution.

Very very bold and controversial thought when it comes to executing a person for a crime they were convicted of.

Now back to Casey Anthony. When she is found guilty and sentenced to death, I bet there would be many who would volunteer to do what Chief Gillispie just said in the video above.
 

greg334

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But I think the real point is are we as a nation want to see actual justice or do we want to feel alright about ourselves and our lives by looking and hearing all the sorted details as some sort of crime voyeur?

It seems that with complete meltdown of many of the news organizations like CNN and Fox over this trial, we as a society have turned a new corner in our quest for gore and death.
 

cheri1122

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But I think the real point is are we as a nation want to see actual justice or do we want to feel alright about ourselves and our lives by looking and hearing all the sorted details as some sort of crime voyeur?

I'm sure that many look for the sordid details, but I don't, for the same reason I don't watch 'horror' movies: imagining the suffering gives me nightmares - no, thanks.
This case is different than all the others, though, because the mother isn't claiming mental illness, or religious reasons - she didn't report the child missing for a month, then offered a ludicrous 'explanation' about a nonexistent babysitter - it's like she isn't even trying to be convincing - very odd. The defense her attorney put forth is even less plausible - so maybe Ms Anthony is mentally unbalanced, but isn't an attorney supposed to be able to present a somewhat realistic defense?
It's a very strange case, all around.

It seems that with complete meltdown of many of the news organizations like CNN and Fox over this trial, we as a society have turned a new corner in our quest for gore and death.

The 'news organizations' go into total meltdown status waaaay too often these days. I guess it's easier than actual reporting of relevant news, especially if it might have a negative effect on sponsors and/or legislators. :rolleyes:
 

greg334

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I do agree that it is a strange case but not enough to warrant the attention that it has garnered. There are other bizarre and/or extreme cases.

The one thing that stands out in this one that doesn't in others is the same thing that seems to be prevalent in many of the child abduction/killing issues - the kid is white and 'cute'.
 
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