Carrier Awards/Rewards

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
I know it would be near impossible to determine...BUT

Not one carrier ever gives a mention to people who run a business successfully...One who is building a fleet, managing a fleet or a solo owner being able to upgrade their unit because of running a successful business...

There sure seems to be a lot of rewards for those of us that help build our carriers business by our refusal rates. :eek:


Turn an unprofitable load down and there goes your T-shirt or honorable mention in the monthly newsletter.

In other words they reward us for running our business badly??
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I know it would be near impossible to determine...BUT

Not one carrier ever gives a mention to people who run a business successfully...One who is building a fleet, managing a fleet or a solo owner being able to upgrade their unit because of running a successful business...

There sure seems to be a lot of rewards for those of us that help build our carriers business by our refusal rates. :eek:


Turn an unprofitable load down and there goes your T-shirt or honorable mention in the monthly newsletter.

In other words they reward us for running our business badly??


Normal for many businesses. Throughout much of my life I seldom heard from bosses unless it was negative. Once a year you would get a silly "performance review". They were often "inflated" with "outstanding" rating for everyone.

Performance rating should be done on an almost weekly basis. certainly no less then monthly.

The problem we have here is that, at least in part, what is good for the carriers business is not always best for what is good for the individual truck or fleet owners business. The carriers need to move every load offered. We cannot afford to run loads that do not make a profit very often. The two needs do not always match up. The smaller the operation the less room you have for low paying runs. That is just how it is for most of us.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
But the awards/rewards are bogus...being rewarded for not running our business in a profitable manner...it makes the carriers look stupid in our eyes...and there are owners that swallow the company line....

We have a guy that has won a leather jacket every year for 100% no turn downs...wonder how much that jacket has cost him?

Look at you as an example...from the time your box was wiped out and the struggle to stay in business...any rewards or honorable mention? Not that you want any, just saying.
Your hard work and determination shouldn't go unnoticed by the very carrier that thinks you are an asset...
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
But the awards/rewards are bogus...being rewarded for not running our business in a profitable manner...it makes the carriers look stupid in our eyes...and there are owners that swallow the company line....

We have a guy that has won a leather jacket every year for 100% no turn downs...wonder how much that jacket has cost him?

Look at you as an example...from the time your box was wiped out and the struggle to stay in business...any rewards or honorable mention? Not that you want any, just saying.
Your hard work and determination shouldn't go unnoticed by the very carrier that thinks you are an asset...

Had to struggle? LOL! You mean STILL struggling!! :eek:

That is not strange when large companies are involved. I am not saying that it is how it should be or even right, that is just how it is. When it gets too bad the company will start having problems with contractors, in our business, or employees in other settings. It is not unheard of for companies to fail due to how they handle things like this. Poor treatment of contractors/employees make it easier for a small company to "knock off" the big boys, or at least take large shares of their business from them. Nothing new under the sun.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
I mean these carriers are so self indulging...

they sure pat each other on the back and give themselves awards...*LOL*

You would think our success would be the path to the carriers success..but somehow it isn't formally recognized.
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I mean these carriers are so self indulging...

they sure pat each other on the back and give themselves awards...*LOL*

You would think our success would be the path to the carriers success..but somehow it isn't formally recognized.

Yeah, formal recognition is OK, more money per load is better!!

Carriers could do much, but that would require an imagination and a willingness to want to do something. There are far too many out there willing to jump in and take our spot if we leave. The carrier is not all that worried, warm bodies are everywhere and they need little more than that to fill their needs. Contractors are needed for their business models, the individual contractor is not.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
OVM,
You been listening to my phone conversations?

I had a long "discussion" this morning about this subject, the reason I am grumpy - a lack of sleep.

Awards?

Rewards?

What?

Are you not a business person?

Don't your rewards come from the result of your hard work?

There is a bit of paternal BS involved with this idea on the carrier's part, the thought we need to be rewarded. I noticed the ones who are the least mature and feel that they are treated unfairly in this business are the ones who are the most happy with any reward for doing this work.

There is a psychology thing involved to get you to work for them like they want you to work for them. Sometimes the office staff are the ones who are immature and need to work the drivers because of their poor people skills.

Rewards?

I get an annersery gift every year. That's a gift.

BUT...

My rewards are a company who is proactive in creating technology to allow my business to run. This means I don't have to have a data entry hat to put in my finances and I can look at all my work on demand with details.

My rewards are a company who keeps me moving when I need to be moving and when I need time off, they don't bother me.

My rewards are a company that doesn't play games with me, treats me as an adult and doesn't lie. BUT also don't rush me in my decision making process.

My rewards are a company that doesn't worry about acceptance rates, refusals or any other micromanaging crap. They treat me as a professional, not a child.

Don't give me money, give me work I CAN DO.

Don't put my name in some newsletter but give me the tools to learn and be proactive.
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
In other words they reward us for running our business badly??

It depends on the specific award/reward, I think. Our carrier recently announced $50 bonuses for trucks that successfully complete level one roadside inspections. As it happened, Diane and I were called into one and passed. The day after we submitted the paperwork $50 was added to our fuel card.

The bonus did not reward profitability but it did reward safety and keeping our truck well maintained, which supports profitability in the long run. In safety and truck maintenance our interests and our carrier's are clearly aligned.

On the other hand, we knew for weeks that the award was out there and that our chances of winning the $50 could be enhanced by voluntarily going through scales and asking for inspections. We did not do so because of a previous experience we once had.

The $50 we won was not intentionally sought. It was only won because a scale cop pulled us in and our paperwork and truck were in good order. Had she given us the choice, we would have declined the inspection and gone on our merry way.

The previous experience happened when a fleet owner whose truck we drove at the time directed us to go in for a voluntary. The scale cop was irritated by our request for a level one inspection and dinged the truck for a loose U-bolt that attaches the box to the frame. He told me the loose bolt was in a place where it could not be easily seen. That part was true because when I later looked, no loose bolt could be seen.

That meant nothing. The fleet owner now had a violation to clear before the truck could be again dispatched. He told me to take it into the shop and have them re-torque the U-bolts. It cost over $300 by the time the shop busted the rusty bolts loose and re-torqued them, plus the down time to get it done.

Another time, we got $50 when a carrier-hired survellaince vehicle followed our truck and determined that we were driving safely. There again, the carrier's interests and ours are clearly aligned.

The amusing thing (to us) about these two awards is that it mattered not to us if they were out there to win or not. We drive safe and maintain our vehicle not because our carrier wants us to, but because it is good business and very much in our own best interests to do so.

Another example of a well targeted award was not part of an announced award program. It was a case where a team was given a carrier-awarded gift card because of an outstanding performance review I sent in.

Diane and I did a rescue load for this team as their truck had broken down. The circumstances and the performance of the team were such that I believed they deserved special recognition and high praise, which I gave by putting it in writing and sending to our carrier. On the books, the team was charged with a service failure, mechanical. In our carrier's eyes, their performance was award-winning and duly recognized.
 
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greg334

Veteran Expediter
Because Layout, it seems a bit silly to say "get a good inspection we will pay you" when a good inspection is part of your job to keep the vehicle and yourself safe. It is like "turn in your logs on time and we will give you $20".

I would agree with "get a bad inspection and we will subtract $50 from your settlements" - that seems to be a bit more fair and gives an incentive to reinforce what we are supposed to be doing.

I feel it comes down to the carrier's need to provide capacity by recruiting a hodge podge of marginal people.

Maybe I am all wrong, maybe there isn't a need for a carrier to treat people like children - here's a lolly pop for being a good boy at the doctor's office.

I don't know

... but ...

I do know that I would like my carrier to take the rewards and awards and turn them into work for me. If they invest $30,000 in rewards for a quarter, that can be three FTEs who can be proactive in selling the carrier or finding opportunities that will keep my truck rolling - that is the biggest reward.
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I understand. The only problem I see is something that I always had a problem with when I was a manager. I had very few ways to reward people but all kinds of ways to punish.

I had to even "INVENT" certificates to put them into peoples records. I had very few "positive" tools. Typical for the government or large corporations.

I know it is my responsibility to keep my truck as near perfect as possible. It is not the job of FedEx to "reward" me, or anyone, for doing what they should be doing.

It is a small amount of money. It does wonders on the moral side. Everyone should always do what they should be doing. A little "pat on the back" once in a while goes a long way.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Yea Layout, you see what I'm getting at.

I am all for the interaction between carrier and driver.

I would like to have a dispatcher call me after 30 hours of sitting and say "How are you doing? Let's see if we can get you moving". That helps a lot more than a pat on the back because it shows concern for the driver, a reward doesn't seem to cut it on so many levels. But again for so many people it is all about the stuff, "look what I got and you don't".

Work for many is the best reward.
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Like instead of ignoring the fact that a driver MUST be home and doing what they can to get them them home, rather than leaving them to get home on their own. It is NOT their job to get them home, but just think of the GOOD feelings that would garner compared to the "sour taste" the normal way leaves.

I had a REALLY hard time with the military people who worked for me. It was almost impossible to get them promoted. I could not get them a 3 day pass. I had nothing to "tweak" them. I even brought one a homemade cake once, because he earned "something" and I could do "nothing" for him.

You are right, it is the little things that always seem to do more than the "big" ones.
 

nightcreacher

Veteran Expediter
I'll make it short.First week here at Tri-State,I had a thank you note sent over my QC.
At FDCC I received 4 purple promise rewards.
 

TJ959

Veteran Expediter
I ran for a carrier that awarded a $25 savings bond every time you passed a roadside inspection. I had a two month period where I was pulled back 5 times and passed every time. I think safety was beginning to think I was pulling a scam.
 

Dynamite 1

Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
there needs be more understanding between carriers and contractors. the small things matter greatly. i dont need rewarded, i just need you to understand what i go through out here on the road for you. we need carriers to know that they are responsible for the situations we sometimes get in hauling their freight. realize that a load to nowhere is going to require some attention and respect for simply taking it. have some premise of forethought. this is a good thread and should be responded to by all. post what you feel should be done by your carrier to strengthen your relationship. i for one will be listening and watching this thread. i have a huge interest in this particular subject and need your input. no questions please, i will explain later. come on everyone, post your opinions. i want to know.
 
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