California Experience So Far in 2014?
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jamom123
Expert Expediter
I heard someone say something about how they may limit trucks that don't meet CARB requirements. Something like 5,000 miles a year or something. I haven't researched it so i don't know if it's true or not just wondering what everyone else thought about it.
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No extension was sought. Had we obtained one, I do not know if it would have been transferable to a new owner of the truck.
My research shows no extensions available now for any reason. Last extension expired 12/31 and was called the "good faith" extension. Currently they have a low- milage option you can sign up for and that is running less than 1000 miles in CA for the year. The only mention of 5000 miles on their website is in regard to construction vehicles like cranes etc. I am hoping the 5000 mile rumor everyone keeps throwing out will come true because that is a workable number of miles for us for a year.
Doggie Daddy
Veteran Expediter
You might want to recheck that, the 1000 miles is for a vehicle that only does 1000 miles or less period.
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zorry
Veteran Expediter
This must be one of the most misunderstood regulations out there.
I have a friend who says he feels he can't run Ca. His carrier, one of the biggest, says he's OK.
The Truck Paper last month had a full page front cover ad that says to run Ca you must have a 2007 model engine,the dealer claims these were put in 2008 Chassis and newer.
It probably doesn't matter until there is enforcement.
What are the various carriers doing ? Are they dispatching you ? Are they flagging your units ?
I talked to a team that got a $500 bump on a load into Ca. He asked dispatch if they had trouble finding qualified trucks and was told "it's getting harder."
I have a friend who says he feels he can't run Ca. His carrier, one of the biggest, says he's OK.
The Truck Paper last month had a full page front cover ad that says to run Ca you must have a 2007 model engine,the dealer claims these were put in 2008 Chassis and newer.
It probably doesn't matter until there is enforcement.
What are the various carriers doing ? Are they dispatching you ? Are they flagging your units ?
I talked to a team that got a $500 bump on a load into Ca. He asked dispatch if they had trouble finding qualified trucks and was told "it's getting harder."
Wow. So much misinformation.
The "good faith effort" exemption did not expire; rather, you had to have applied for financing for a compliant truck or a PM filter retrofit prior to that date, and have been turned down. We were turned down for financing for a new truck. However, the dunces at Fyda were too lazy to do their jobs. One call to one of the lenders they submitted it to gained an approval. The turndown letter bought us until 6/30/14 to comply, or switch to the low-mileage allowance. That information has to be entered into TRUCRS by 1/31/14. We're milking both, for now.
Low-mileage:
You can get a permit from TRUCRS (CARB's registration site) for limited trips inside of California (regardless of how many miles out of Cali you drive. You can also drive up to 5,000 miles total without complying, so long as you register. That 5,000 miles is for the truck, for the entire year, anywhere. IFTA reports will be used in enforcement in both cases.
Engines:
2007 model year "family" engines are kosher. If you are driving a 2007 with a 2004-2006 model year family engine (EGR or ACERT), you are subject to the above restriction. If you are driving a 2007 or later model year engine family engine, you're good for a long time (DPF, SCR).
Whomever granted this exception, I'd love to hear about. If it's the carrier, not my problem. Once they pay one fine for loading a non-compliant truck, things will change in a hurry. Our carrier, IMHO, has a somewhat indifferent approach right now. I guarantee that will change once their pocketbook takes a hit. The fines for drivers are substantial. The fines for carriers are MASSIVE.
Enforcement: One truck operator I spoke to last week had a long conversation with CARB just 2 weeks ago, when applying for his 1,000 mile permit. They intimated that CARB is spread thin, and are only actively seeking out heavy trucks in truckstops idling for now. They could care less about APU's at this point (although there is currently no APU on the market that is compliant with their rules. They were tol that things will start being ratcheted up 7/1/14.
I believe folks looking for another date change for rule enforcement are wishing in one hand.....
I believe this is the final rule.
Hope that helps.
The "good faith effort" exemption did not expire; rather, you had to have applied for financing for a compliant truck or a PM filter retrofit prior to that date, and have been turned down. We were turned down for financing for a new truck. However, the dunces at Fyda were too lazy to do their jobs. One call to one of the lenders they submitted it to gained an approval. The turndown letter bought us until 6/30/14 to comply, or switch to the low-mileage allowance. That information has to be entered into TRUCRS by 1/31/14. We're milking both, for now.
Low-mileage:
You can get a permit from TRUCRS (CARB's registration site) for limited trips inside of California (regardless of how many miles out of Cali you drive. You can also drive up to 5,000 miles total without complying, so long as you register. That 5,000 miles is for the truck, for the entire year, anywhere. IFTA reports will be used in enforcement in both cases.
Engines:
2007 model year "family" engines are kosher. If you are driving a 2007 with a 2004-2006 model year family engine (EGR or ACERT), you are subject to the above restriction. If you are driving a 2007 or later model year engine family engine, you're good for a long time (DPF, SCR).
Whomever granted this exception, I'd love to hear about. If it's the carrier, not my problem. Once they pay one fine for loading a non-compliant truck, things will change in a hurry. Our carrier, IMHO, has a somewhat indifferent approach right now. I guarantee that will change once their pocketbook takes a hit. The fines for drivers are substantial. The fines for carriers are MASSIVE.
Enforcement: One truck operator I spoke to last week had a long conversation with CARB just 2 weeks ago, when applying for his 1,000 mile permit. They intimated that CARB is spread thin, and are only actively seeking out heavy trucks in truckstops idling for now. They could care less about APU's at this point (although there is currently no APU on the market that is compliant with their rules. They were tol that things will start being ratcheted up 7/1/14.
I believe folks looking for another date change for rule enforcement are wishing in one hand.....
I believe this is the final rule.
Hope that helps.
Twiggy
Rookie Expediter
Geez, I know this was posted some time ago but may I ask what you hauled out of New Hampshire and from what city?We also received a one year extension.Hoping they will pass the 7500 mile out of state trucks pass they are considering.Today we are picking up in New Hampshire and delivering in San Diego $ 2.07 all miles.Been a very good week