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[muttly]

Like I said. It dropped like a rock and then the Biden Administration began to restrict and ration them.
Biden had a year to make sure we had adequate stockpiles of monoclonals before “supply line issues” were a thing. I’m old enough to remember those that blamed the Orange guy for not preparing for every contingency.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1479830255934316547

 

[ATeam]

Not to worry - Biden and his team are coming to the rescue. Free at-home tests will be available to order as of Jan 19th. However, you better order these things before you get sick because delivery time will be an issue. They claim 7-12 days by USPS, but based on past experience it could be 2-3 weeks if they get overwhelmed by demand. And there's the issue of how well the govt-run website will work - hopefully better than the one rolled out for Obamacare.

Biden administration to start shipping free at-home Covid tests next week

Each household will be able to request 4 tests via a new government-run website, with tests to be delivered in 7 to 12 days.

www.nbcnews.com

While we have no immediate need, we'll order ours and keep them on hand. COVID-19 is with us to stay. The test kits may be handy to have another day. We had a couple left over from before when we purchased them. They come in two-packs. Those got used up testing our staff members at our gym when the need to do so then rose. We were glad then to have a couple on hand.

 

[ATeam]

Biden had a year to make sure we had adequate stockpiles of monoclonals before “supply line issues” were a thing.

Supply chain issues have been a thing almost since COVID-19 first began. Remember toilet paper shortages? Meat shortages? Container ships stacked up in ports? Vaccine shortages? Container shortages? Chip shortages? PPG shortages? Horse medicine shortages? Test shortages? Common through two administrations. Market forces matter too.

 

[muttly]

Supply chain issues have been a thing almost since COVID-19 first began. Remember toilet paper shortages? Meat shortages? Container ships stacked up in ports? Vaccine shortages? Container shortages? Chip shortages? PPG shortages? Horse medicine shortages? Test shortages? Common through two administrations. Market forces matter too.

Excuses…

 

[Pilgrim]

Speaking of a lack of Covid testing centers, how many have heard of Center for COVID Control - a nationwide chain of Covid testing centers? Apparently testing for covid has been the new get-rich-quick scheme designed to take advantage of the US Govt's incompetence. Unbelievable.

"A federal agency has documented numerous "deficiencies" at the company's main lab, Doctors Clinical Lab, which has been reimbursed more than $124 million from the federal government's COVID-19 uninsured program, according to public data. Private health insurers were also paying the company.
At its peak, the company said it was collecting more than 80,000 tests per day. The federal government has reimbursed some labs at a rate of $100 per PCR test. It was not immediately clear how much the lab was billing private insurance companies."

How a wedding photographer and a failed donut shop owner got $124M in federal cash for COVID testing

While the Center for COVID Control failed to keep up with testing demands, the company's owners spent millions on luxury cars and homes, records show.

news.yahoo.com

 

[RLENT]

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Like I said. It dropped like a rock

Pretty easy to produce an exaggerated Y-axis slopes on a graph when the X-axis is overly compressed. It's one of a number common rookie mistakes which people that produce and deal with graphs know to avoid, because it creates misunderstandings like the one you seem to have.

Viewing everything on a phone (in portrait orientation) may have been what bit you. Try rotating it ...

Graph of Florida Cases (from John Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center):



Florida - COVID-19 Overview - Johns Hopkins

Note the slopes in the above to the right of the middle (but not all the way at the far right) - that's the time period in question.

It's around three months long.

and then the Biden Administration began to restrict and ration them.

Talk to that greedy DeSantis fellow who thinks he and his state are "special".

Biden had a year to make sure we had adequate stockpiles of monoclonals before “supply line issues” were a thing.

Sure ...

Probably with his magic wand ?



The US has administered almost 527,000,000 vaccine doses, most of it under Biden's watch.

We currently have roughly another 125,000,000 doses which could be administered ... if only the dummies would get the jab.

I’m old enough to remember those that blamed the Orange guy for not preparing for every contingency.

The Orange Guy wasn't in the middle of pandemic when he took the helm.

Nonetheless, he still managed to screw it up.

 

[ATeam]

Excuses…
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Again, you're changing the subject. My post was about you posting false information. Not about Biden or DeSantis or antibody treatment supply.

 

[ATeam]

Supply chain issues have been a thing almost since COVID-19 first began. Remember toilet paper shortages? Meat shortages? Container ships stacked up in ports? Vaccine shortages? Container shortages? Chip shortages? PPG shortages? Horse medicine shortages? Test shortages? Common through two administrations. Market forces matter too.

More on this. No president and no U.S. political party is more powerful than the markets and the economy. Certain things they do can have tangential impacts but their powers are limited by the far more powerful forces of the markets overall. U.S. interests have little control over what China does. And in this case China is disrupting global markets with more lockdowns.

Supply chain woes could worsen as China imposes new Covid lockdowns

China used lockdowns, contact tracing and quarantines to halt the spread of the coronavirus nearly two years ago after its emergence in Wuhan.

economictimes.indiatimes.com

 

[Ragman]

Again, you're changing the subject.

Thats what the righty tighties do.

My post was about you posting false information.

False information and whataboutism is their signature.

 

[ATeam]

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Like I said. It dropped like a rock and then the Biden Administration began to restrict and ration them.
Biden had a year to make sure we had adequate stockpiles of monoclonals before “supply line issues” were a thing. I’m old enough to remember those that blamed the Orange guy for not preparing for every contingency.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1479830255934316547

In FL, there have been four distinct waves. A simple glance of the charts you provide show none of them have dropped like a rock. The thing that makes a wave a wave is the pace of the downside more-or-less the matches the pace of the upside. In all cases, these waves complete over a period of weeks if not months.

Because COVID-19 directly impacts our business, I look at the wave patterns every day using this chart (below). I enjoy the ability the chart gives to zoom in on various time periods, thereby giving viewers a better sense of the speed of the upside and downside.

If you look, you will see Florida's current wave began on Dec. 13, 2021; 35 days ago. You will also see that the trend has only this week began to confirm a downward slope. It peaked on Jan. 8, 2022, thereby developing a 26-day upside, assuming a higher peak does not develop. It will be a while yet before the wave is complete, but it is obvious to anyone not blinded by confirmation bias that this wave, like the three previous waves, has not dropped "like a rock." Nor would it be expected to drop like a rock, given how waves work.

COVID Data Tracker

CDC’s home for COVID-19 data. Visualizations, graphs, and data in one easy-to-use website.

covid.cdc.gov

 

[ATeam]

With Florida's Omicron variant new-case-count peak seemingly established, and the trend now sloping down, it's clear that Omicron is a less severe form of COVID-19 than Delta was. While the Omicron wave is stunningly higher than Delta, and while the case count is probably many times higher than the charts show because not all cases are reported, we're not seeing hospitals overflow like we saw with Delta; and we're not seeing temporary morgues set up in hospital parking lots like we saw with Delta.

While the current flavor of COVID-19 is sweeping through our communities (and our gym), causing numerous work absences as people quarantine, Floridians (at least in our area) seem to be taking things in stride. Overall, we've seen no decline in gym usage. Except for actual infections and the then-requisite quarantines, no one we know has modified their behavior or outside activities in response to this wave of COVID-19.

That does not mean the pandemic is over. Not by a long shot. A new, more deadly variant could develop and we could suffer Delta-like impacts again, if not worse. But for now, Diane and I feel more relaxed because Omicron, while still deadly to some, is generally a milder form of the illness. And there is little point in worrying about something that may or may not develop sometime in the future. While we try to be prepared for business emergencies of all kinds, we'll cross any new COVID-19 variant bridge when we come to it.

We are grateful for the experts who saved millions of lives by developing vaccines and helped us feel more confident out and about because the vaccines exist and help keep people out of the hospitals and cemeteries. We wish the experts our very best as they continue to work to develop better vaccines, better treatments, and maybe even a cure for COVID-19.

 

[muttly]

From August 28th when they had about 21,500 to Sept 29th when they had 5, 500. cases. Yes that’s dropping like a rock.
Monoclonals is what they are rationing. Not vaccines. Due to the warp speed program there is enough in place of those. The issue is they didn’t order enough monoclonals when they had the chance much earlier. It’s due to the current administration’s tunnel vision about dealing with the virus with vaccines (one size fits all approach) and broadening enough their approach with early treatments as well such as monoclonals.

 

[muttly]

Again, you're changing the subject. My post was about you posting false information. Not about Biden or DeSantis or antibody treatment supply.

My post was about monoclonals. And it wasn’t false information. Just someone knit picking on a phrase vaccines and monoclonals are basically on every corner. I recall another Florida poster mention that vaccines were super easy to get in Florida. And if not for the rationing that is going on now with the monoclonals, DeSantis would allocate more sites than he has now, which he has been aggressive with providing for the citizens of Florida, more so than a lot of other states, my state(Michigan) included.

 

[ATeam]

From August 28th when they had about 21,500 to Sept 29th when they had 5, 500. cases. Yes that’s dropping like a rock.
Monoclonals is what they are rationing. Not vaccines. Due to the warp speed program there is enough in place of those. The issue is they didn’t order enough monoclonals when they had the chance much earlier. It’s due to the current administration’s tunnel vision about dealing with the virus with vaccines (one size fits all approach) and broadening enough their approach with early treatments as well such as monoclonals.

No, a one-month decline is not dropping like a rock. Dropping like a rock means straight down, not rolling down a slope.

If you want your posts to be credible and actually possible to discuss, you would be wise to use terms that communicate a clear meaning, not figures of speech. You actually did that above by citing numbers and dates that illustrate a certain rate of decline. In contrast, "dropping like a rock" is meaningless. Meaningful assertions include the data to back them up.

 

[muttly]

No, a one-month decline is not dropping like a rock. Dropping like a rock means straight down, not rolling down a slope.

If you want your posts to be credible and actually possible to discuss, you would be wise to use terms that communicate a clear meaning, not figures of speech. You actually did that above by citing numbers and dates that illustrate a certain rate of decline. In contrast, "dropping like a rock" is meaningless. Meaningful assertions include the data to back them up.

You agreed with my characterization of dropping like a rock in a previous thread. Check it out. And spare the lectures.

 

[Turtle]

No, a one-month decline is not dropping like a rock. Dropping like a rock means straight down, not rolling down a slope.

Sooooo, we're arguing about metaphors now. Awesome.

 

[danthewolf00]

Because that's all they can do.....

 

[danthewolf00]

Democrats have shown they can't run a state let alone a nation.....without screwing it up.
High crime
Logistics failure
High taxes
Medical help
High gas prices
They do everything opposite of common sense.

 

[ATeam]

Free COVID-19 test kits supplied by the government can now be ordered online. Click here for details and to place your order.

COVID-19 Testing

Every home in the U.S. is eligible to order an additional 4 free at-⁠home tests beginning November 20. If you did not order tests this fall, you may place two orders for a total of 8 tests.

www.covidtests.gov

 

[Turtle]

Free COVID-19 test kits supplied by the government can now be ordered online. Click here for details and to place your order.

COVID-19 Testing

Every home in the U.S. is eligible to order an additional 4 free at-⁠home tests beginning November 20. If you did not order tests this fall, you may place two orders for a total of 8 tests.

www.covidtests.gov

Thanks for posting that, Phil.