Buttin heads about trucking

arkjarhead

Veteran Expediter
Yesterday one of my professors set up a scenario were someone was an O/O, although he called them a truck driver that owns their own truck. I thought it was totally wrong and I called him on it. Here is the scenario.

Leased to J.B. Hunt Transportation
Pay= 3.00 per mile
Miles per Year= 220,000 (solo)
Home every weekend.
Bills= 2.25 per mile (he didn't elaborate and say if this was just business or both business and personal)
Interest rate on truck= 7%

My first argument was J.B. isn't paying an O/Os 3 bucks a mile. Secondly I told him a solo wasn't going to turn 220,000 miles per year. A team could if they ran hard all year, but I doubt they would be home every weekend. That's where the argument began. He felt like a solo could easily run 220,000 miles per year. I brought up the FMCSA and he looked at me like I was stupid. Then he began to throw around his Phd and say he has "studied and analyzed" the transportation industry.He has no real world work experience to speak of. I just showed him my Class A CDL and he began to stutter. He asked me why I felt a solo couldn't run 220,000 miles per year. I told him because it wasn't legal to do so. That would be a little over 4,000 miles a week. I've found it hard to get much past 3,000 miles per week and stay legal. He said there were no such regulations. It took all I had not to blurt out "If you have actually researched and analyzed the trucking industry you would know there are". So he told me if I could bring him proof of these "so called regulations" he would give me 50 bonus points added on to my grade at the end of the semester. I hope he is ready to give out some bonus points.

He has all these 18 and 19 year old boys in the class counting down the days until they are old enough to go lease on to J.B. so they can make 6 figures a year being their own boss, doing what they want, and be home each and every weekend. I feel sorry for them if they follow his suggestion. I think they will be very upset with him.
 

x06col

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Retired Expediter
US Army
Now THAT is a classic example of the phrase "edumacated idiots". And to tink they're paying GOOD money for that edumacation. What school is this anyway??
 

jimby82

Veteran Expediter
Hello,

I'm new (first post) here, and looking to get into expediting sometime down the road. I'm in the process of getting my CDL at the moment, and as luck would have it, I actually have the FMCSA's website pointed to the right place. Give him this link:
395.3

Collect your 50 points and pass GO!

Jim
 

x06col

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Retired Expediter
US Army
Got to tinkin after my earlier post... Boy would I feel good (NOT) about getting extra point from this clown. Believe i'd have to tell him to keep em.
 

moose

Veteran Expediter
For a lousy Proff. he can be a good recruiter...
Opening positions @ JB recruiting center...
might not pay as well...



Moose.
 

Jack_Berry

Moderator Emeritus
stand your ground joe!!

beat him down with facts! just give him a regulations book and ask him what is inside.
 

buckeyewildman

Seasoned Expediter
HOLY COW I,M GOING TO GO BUY A TRUCK AND LEASE ON WITH J B HUNT I,M GOING TO GET RICH
whew that was close i almost bought that truck
 

Moot

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
Congratulations Joe for standing your ground. I agree with the Colonel about the extra bonus points, "thanks, but no thanks."
I have 8 or 10 boxes of Moot Points stored in my garage. If you would like to award your professor a couple hundred Moot Points let me know. I will ship some to you.
 

highway star

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
I'll have to respectfully disagree with you here, Moot. There are times when it's O.K. to take advantage of the "galacticly stupid"* and this is one of them.

*Thanks to whomever wrote that line for Tom Cruises character in "A Few Good Men".
 

Moot

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
I can understand taking advantage of a "galacticly stupid" professor to help shore up a grade. And Joe may have already hurt his grade some by challenging this professor and proving him wrong. Some college professors take exception to being corrected, especially in a classroom. So the 50 bonus points may come in handy.

I personally am a little more reckless and would risk losing a whole letter grade just to show the vindictive twerp that I don't need his charity.
 

arkjarhead

Veteran Expediter
I found an extra lil green book here at the house to let him hold onto. Maybe he will then at least realize there is a thing called the FMCSA.
 

LDB

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I would take the points from him knowing it would just eat at his insides having to give them.
 

pelicn

Veteran Expediter
You know Ark...that is a classic reason why this industry has the troubles they have. The general public just doesn't "get it"!
Go grab those points! :)
 

Rocketman

Veteran Expediter
Ark, just make sure your book is not an old book before the 11/14 rules went into effect, although you probably couldn't do what he claims on the old system either.

If you need a newer book, I have 3 or 4 and would happily donate one for the cause. AND by all means take his freakin points and laugh at 'em every chance ya get.
 

morningstar55ny

Veteran Expediter
Driver
i have JB hunt harass me all the time ..... to come work for them.
about a yr or so ago..... they were on me almost every other day....... they were getting me soo dam aggravated.......
they wouldnt take NO for an answer......... i hardly hear from them anymore.... cept once in a great while now......
now who wants to work for a company thats always harassin them???
ok i am really tired here......and had a long day....... nites.
 
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