Borders

[pjjjjj]

I read some news articles today about the upcoming border initiatives which are proceeding as scheduled for June 1st.
It was disappointing for Canadians to be told they would be treated the same as Mexicans I guess. Article here:
globeandmail.com: Obama's message: Glory days of open border are gone

I just find it kinda interesting.. do you ever hear about a bunch of Canadians painting a van to impersonate DHL and hiding like 19 Canucks in the back who, when stopped, go running out the back doors? Ummm nooo. And yet this happens with your Mexican borders and what happens? Zero. Driver doesn't even get charged???? Sheesh!! No reason to treat the 2 borders differently!
Disguised Delivery Van Fails to Deceive Border Patrol - CBP.gov

 

[layoutshooter]

Barry is out to pizz off as many as he can in the first six months. He is JC two. Just start trashing the real allies and belly up to the scuz of the world. BUT, you know what they say, birds of a feather........ I am with you pjjjj, close off Mexico, and get rid of the speed limiters. Layoutshooter

 

[wellarmed]

How do US citizens benefit from canadian or mexican citizens crossing borders to work or haul freight?

 

[pjjjjj]

You know Well-Armed, the US is not an island.

And Layout, again, forgive me if I am mistaken, but wasn't the WHTI initiated long before the dreaded Obama took office?

Don'tcha hate it when facts get in the way?

That said.. I guess it really wouldn't have mattered who got elected as President, would it? Seems he is just more of the same.

 

[Turtle]

Barry is out to pizz off as many as he can in the first six months.

Did you even read the article? The border initiatives, the requiring of a passport or equivalent beginning June 1, has already been delayed twice for a total of 18 months. Obama has got nothing to do with this. Many people were hoping that Obama would relax the border security standards, but he's merely leaving them in place. These are standards that should have already been in place years ago, actually.

"How do US citizens benefit from canadian or mexican citizens crossing borders to work or haul freight?"

US-Canadian border crossings, it's about a wash, but allowing Mexican citizens to come here and work and haul freight will mean cheaper things at the store. It'll suck for US truck drivers, but for everyone else, things will be cheaper. Why pay a US trucker forty cents a mile to move freight out of Laredo when you can pay a Mexican driver ten or twelve cents a mile to do the same thing? It will mean healthier bottom lines for trucking companies and businesses, which will translate to cheaper goods at the stores.

The bannanaheads inside the beltway who are pushing for the Mexican cross border program actually have the gall to say it will open up opportunities for American truckers to haul freight into Mexico. But the same holds true in reverse, why pay a US trucker forty cents a mile to haul stuff to Mexico City when you can pay a Mexican driver 10 cents a mile to do it? And that assumes any US trucker even wants to go to Mexico in the first place. The only ones who will want to go are the ones that were born there or have relatives there, in effect having most of the trucking in the US being done domestically, and in Mexico, by Mexican drivers, because it's cheaper all around.

Of course, those who oppose this won't say that, they'll say it's about the safety of the Mexican trucks. The won't come right out and say it's about American trucking jobs. That won't get them any sympathy in Washington. So, it'll be about safety, and eventually, some kid will be injured or killed by a Mexican trucker, and then it will become all about the children. We'll even have a poster child. Hey, whatever it takes.

 

[wellarmed]

It will not matter if the freight gets hauled cheaper the prices will not go down the profits will go up.I can't under stand why we always worry about our neighbors when we cant take care of our selves.Canada and mexico are the ones that benifit from the cross border freight not us.The canadian border should be just like the mexican border,25mi limit.the only reason canadians and mexicans are concerned with american polotics is there afraid they might lose there meal ticket,and that has to be a fact or they would not be over here they would be there earning a living.Or would they?If we were not so worryed about every one else our veterens would not be sleeping on park benchs,they fought for this country so our goverment could give it away to other countrys.thoes are the facts every american knows it but there afraid someones feelings might get hurt if they say it,sorry but the truth hurts.

 

[layoutshooter]

Hey pjjjj, I just like picking on Obama cause he is such a putz!!! Everything is now his fault as much or more than everything was Bush's fault for the past 8 years. Layoutshooter

 

[OntarioVanMan]

It will not matter if the freight gets hauled cheaper the prices will not go down the profits will go up.I can't under stand why we always worry about our neighbors when we cant take care of our selves.Canada and mexico are the ones that benifit from the cross border freight not us.The canadian border should be just like the mexican border,25mi limit.the only reason canadians and mexicans are concerned with american polotics is there afraid they might lose there meal ticket,and that has to be a fact or they would not be over here they would be there earning a living.Or would they?If we were not so worryed about every one else our veterens would not be sleeping on park benchs,they fought for this country so our goverment could give it away to other countrys.thoes are the facts every american knows it but there afraid someones feelings might get hurt if they say it,sorry but the truth hurts.

Canada and mexico are the ones that benifit from the cross border freight not us.The canadian border should be just like the mexican border,25mi limit.the only reason canadians and mexicans are concerned with american polotics is there afraid they might lose there meal ticket,

Whoa hold your buttski there pal....WRONG!!

It was you Americans that rode the good Canadian economy for the last year and YOUR mortgage scandal dragged Canada down to YOUR level...News Flash...Canada is self sufficient in oil...are you? Can you support yourselves? Not anymore...
Many things that seem to come from the US are coming thru seaports from OTHER countries...That COULD be changed though...The US makes nothing that Canada can not...other then a boatload of illegals from Mexico!

Canada makes the top 3 cars in NA...who makes them parts.?.. to some % US does...whom need whom...
To put yourself on a pedistal...Canada could IF they had too live without the US...

To add...so could the US IF they had the political will to do so...

 

[louixo]

All of this is empty rhetoric. The mexican driver in Mexico doesn`t want to see American or Canadian trucks crossing the border into Mexico. Both countries can do it more efficiently than Mexico, and therefore become a major threat to the average Jose, and the Mexican Trucking Industry. The trucking companies in the USA and Canada benefit, if Mexican trucks are allowed to cross, business benefits to some extent but that`s about it. The large trucking companies will end up with a virtual monopoly if Mexcan trucks are able to run the USA and Canada. Most are owned by multi national corporations. The North American Free Trade Agreement is a work in progress, that may not last. It`s a tool that the politicos use as a bargaining chip to gain other concessions from each other. It has yet to be fully implemented, because there are just too many holes in it for many reasons. There are demonstrations in Mexico orchestrated by politics and big business to open the border more, to trucks, and migrant workers, and to tax American exports into Mexico to "punish" the USA for not allowing mexican trucks to enter. There are larger demonstrations in Mexico that you never read about in Canada or the USA to keep foreign trucks already running the lucrative routes into Mexico City out of Mexico, and they have been running that corridor for a long time. The latter are orchestrated by unions in Mexico trying to protect their drivers.

 

[aristotle]

About a year ago, an entrepreneur wanted to bring a large crew of Mexican migrants to work the underground coal mines in Eastern Kentucky. Having grown up there, I got a good chuckle when reading the story. No way, Jose... local authorities explained assimilation would be impossible there.

 

[pelicn]

Personally, I'd rather not cross either border. Make Detroit the new Laredo, create a market on all the borders for cross docking. Just call me a "home body"

 

[wellarmed]

Whoa hold your buttski there pal....WRONG!!

It was you Americans that rode the good Canadian economy for the last year and YOUR mortgage scandal dragged Canada down to YOUR level...News Flash...Canada is self sufficient in oil...are you? Can you support yourselves? Not anymore...
Many things that seem to come from the US are coming thru seaports from OTHER countries...That COULD be changed though...The US makes nothing that Canada can not...other then a boatload of illegals from Mexico!

Canada makes the top 3 cars in NA...who makes them parts.?.. to some % US does...whom need whom...
To put yourself on a pedistal...Canada could IF they had too live without the US...

To add...so could the US IF they had the political will to do so...

You should read and study what I wrote because you are way off on most.If canada is so great why are you over here,no we are not self supportive in oil our gov. sells it all to china,why are we responsible for illegals,they are here and in canada so nobodys doing there job.I did not put myself on a pedistal I am ashamed of our gov. for allowing our country to become what it has,the main point was for someone from another country to be here working and makeing a liveing instead of working in there own country and then to gripe just does not make sense.And what exactly are candian drivers takeing back to canada if they don't need anything from the US.No country is perfect not even Canada but I'm not there makeing my living bringing it back here and gripeing about it I'm here trying to support our economy while our gov. allows foreign workers to take away from our economy.I was not trying to start a debate,I can agree to disagree but if you do not live here but you are makeing money here do you realy have room to gripe.Take the money and run but don't shame a mexican for doing the same.I'll keep working hard to help our economy so you can keep comeing here to make your liveing.And if your country gets invaded just holler our army will be there to save you,keep in mind what the us spends in military to defend the whole world,remember Europe,Korea,vietnam and now the fight against terror,you should know something about that,surely you seen canadian troops pull out when the going got tough,"BOY SCOUTS"

 

[wellarmed]

Personally, I'd rather not cross either border. Make Detroit the new Laredo, create a market on all the borders for cross docking. Just call me a "home body"

I'll second that notion...

 

[MentalGiant]

LOL I agree with you on that wellarmed. That is why we won't do any Canada runs. I just want to support in the US, not in Canada or Mexico. That is why believe the same thing about Mexico. Mexico and Canada people think so highly of themselves, stay there then. Leave us alone. Quit taking our jobs. I for one don't want to hear a mexican or canadian complain about the lack of work or lack of money when over here, when it could of been in a american citizens pocket. I'm sorry if Canada or Mexico are having issues if any really serious. But, thats where their government needs to take a stand and do something about it.

 

[wellarmed]

LOL I agree with you on that wellarmed. That is why we won't do any Canada runs. I just want to support in the US, not in Canada or Mexico. That is why believe the same thing about Mexico. Mexico and Canada people think so highly of themselves, stay there then. Leave us alone. Quit taking our jobs. I for one don't want to hear a mexican or canadian complain about the lack of work or lack of money when over here, when it could of been in a american citizens pocket. I'm sorry if Canada or Mexico are having issues if any really serious. But, thats where their government needs to take a stand and do something about it.

I don't think there realy haveing troubles with money over there and if they were that wouldn't matter our gov. would just go to the park benches and wake up our vets and turn there pockets for what change they may have and send it to canada or mexico who ever has there hand out at the time.The US has helped them all at some time or another in defending them or giveing them money or even running our jobs across the bourders to them and now someone says they could be independent of the US if they wanted to,yeah right,I sure wish that would happen then we wouldn't have these problems we have now.That is our biggest problem,our gov. has given so much and received so little in return and never planned for our own future always worried about someone elses future we ship all our goods out to other countrys and then buy them back at a higher price. "IF THE SOUTH WOULD HAVE ONE" I just wonder how it could have been having a bourder within our bourders.And please don't get me wrong here,I can get along with anyone just quit you bitc#in or just stay home where it's so great disassociate your self with this lousy country.Oh thats right,they come here to make there living.And mental giant I do appreciate your support I could never make up my mind,politician or porn star so I think driving a truck puts me somewhere in the middle

 

[MentalGiant]

I could never make up my mind,politician or porn star so I think driving a truck puts me somewhere in the middle

LOL I love that comment. But, in a way, is that not the same, politician or porn star? Each receives large sums of money for doing things we may considered wrong in many ways.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

wellarmed said...

Canada and mexico are the ones that benifit from the cross border freight not us.The canadian border should be just like the mexican border,25mi limit.the only reason canadians and mexicans are concerned with american polotics is there afraid they might lose there meal ticket,and that has to be a fact or they would not be over here they would be there earning a living.Or would they?

Its hard to mis-interrupt these comments....

I could say what are American trucks taking back to the US?
Beer and bacon?
But lets not quibble...home is where the heart is...and you have your countries best interests in mind as it should be..

 

[wellarmed]

Beer ok,but bacon?If its canadian its realy a round peace of ham where I come from.

 

[Yesteryear]

There is absolutely no comparison between Mexico and Canada. As for Canuks crossing the border, we cross their borders daily, why shouldn't they be allowed to cross ours? Most of us (that legally can) do take the loads into Canada, of those of us that do, how many of us would be willing to go the same distance into Mexico? I certainly wouldn't.
Sorry but I have to agree you don't see Canadians entering illegally into the U.S., you don't see the Canadians standing in line at the U.S. welfare and food stamp offices, the Canadians aren't the ones receiving the welfare checks. Go to the subsidized housing areas and it is Mexicans, not the Canadians, that are benefiting from American tax payers. Not to mention the Mexican family tendencies to pile 10 people in a one bedroom apartment. Travel through Canada, you don't see the slums and filth of the Mexican countryside. The corruption of the Mexican police. The gangs and drug-lords. Yep, it is like comparing a watermellon to an apple!

 

[wellarmed]

I'm sure Canada is a nice place to visit. I have a passport and can travel anywhere in the world legaly. I realize americans do carry freight to and from canada, I just don't agree with that. I would only travel there for pleasure myself. I practice what I preach. I have met several canadian drivers over the years and would like to think I've made some new friends. I even worked for a canadian carrier out of a US office and often thought that may go against my beliefs but I always transfered my freight in romulus. hopefully we can agree to disagree.And I'm sorry some of you seem to judge Mexicans so poorly,I have also met some of them over the years and made a few friends also as for there country well I would have to agree for the most part but look around you parts of our country look the same,Detroit is a fine example.I better shut up someone always gets mad about the truth