Border patrol demands trucker interrupt break

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
I read Hill's original case that started his site. The officer and inspector's boss already threw in the towel on the case, siting they were wrong to wake him. Guess they bit off more than they could chew.
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
I read Hill's original case that started his site. The officer and inspector's boss already threw in the towel on the case, siting they were wrong to wake him. Guess they bit off more than they could chew.

They will do what every they are allowed to get away with. It is a VERY GOOD thing that those drivers had the guts to stand up to them and not just accept being bullied. Too bad SO many in this country are SO WILLING to just do as they are told.
 

EASYTRADER

Expert Expediter
I refused to wake my wife up once, but I didn't have a camera wish I did though. They sent me over to secondary, where I argued about there unconctitutional stop with their supervisor for about 20 minutes. Basically they acted like I was nut, till finally the supervisor started banging on the sleeper till my wife woke up and opened the door.

The whole thing is retarded as ilegal entry to the US isn't really illegal anyway, its a civil offense on par with a traffic tickett. If they made it a felony again backed by prison time illegal immigration would stop and they wouldn't need all these fying checkpoints.
 

OntarioVanMan

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Owner/Operator
I refused to wake my wife up once, but I didn't have a camera wish I did though. They sent me over to secondary, where I argued about there unconctitutional stop with their supervisor for about 20 minutes. Basically they acted like I was nut, till finally the supervisor started banging on the sleeper till my wife woke up and opened the door.

The whole thing is retarded as ilegal entry to the US isn't really illegal anyway, its a civil offense on par with a traffic tickett. If they made it a felony again backed by prison time illegal immigration would stop and they wouldn't need all these fying checkpoints.

you talking the internal check points only or actual border crossing?
 

Tennesseahawk

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They will do what every they are allowed to get away with. It is a VERY GOOD thing that those drivers had the guts to stand up to them and not just accept being bullied. Too bad SO many in this country are SO WILLING to just do as they are told.

When you have judges and juries who have no problems believing LEOs over citizens, because they are supposed to be the stalwart of law and order, then things will never change. Countless numbers of people will accept penalty, thru no fault of their own, because it ends up as their word against an officer's.
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
When you have judges and juries who have no problems believing LEOs over citizens, because they are supposed to be the stalwart of law and order, then things will never change. Countless numbers of people will accept penalty, thru no fault of their own, because it ends up as their word against an officer's.

That is EXACTLY why we should be carrying, and using, cameras and recorders. It is long past time to take these people to task.

They WILL continue to abuse their power, and the level of abuse will continue to rise, as long as we allow them to get away with it.
 

iceroadtrucker

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Driver
Get real if your crossing the boarder you know the deal just do it. Stupid is as stupid does.
Just use their latrine.

Iterstate border checks ya then I agree with the write up.
 
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OntarioVanMan

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Owner/Operator
I love them internal border checks.....Citizenship...Canadian.....sometimes I get no reaction...more them 1/2 the time the ears perk up..even a couple occasions it is like 1 step back and hand goes to rest on gun holster...really?....LOL sometimes I have to go to 2ndary because he does not want to hold up traffic....I have found at least the guys in the green jump suits have more of a sense of humour then their northern brethren in black, on the north border....
 

bikerpaul

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I have been making runs to Canada for about a year now, and never have had any problems with the officers on either side of the border. This is going over the Ambassador Bridge in Detroit.
 

OntarioVanMan

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Owner/Operator
I have been making runs to Canada for about a year now, and never have had any problems with the officers on either side of the border. This is going over the Ambassador Bridge in Detroit.

I did it for about 6 years 2-5 times a week...had an anal officer a couple of times but nothing really to sweat about...and most of that was when they had the students on in the summer time...They are just a civil servant with a gun...LOL

Some people just go around looking for issues to gripe about....
 

piattteam

Active Expediter
Question for you refuse to get out for border patrol advocates. Do you have your partner exit the vehicle when you go to a military base to p/u or deliver? At a chemical plant (to watch video/ get signed in) for p/u or delivery?
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
I did it for about 6 years 2-5 times a week...had an anal officer a couple of times but nothing really to sweat about...and most of that was when they had the students on in the summer time...They are just a civil servant with a gun...LOL

Some people just go around looking for issues to gripe about....

I have had very few problems in my almost 8 years in this business. I can only recall 3 really serious problems, 1 on the US side and 2 on the Canadian side. I REALLY wish I had a recorder at that time, I WOULD have sued in all 3 cases. I would have sued double on the incident where the Canadian customs official touched me. He put his nose on mine. There can be NO WAY possible that was legal.

Other than those 3, no problems.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Question for you refuse to get out for border patrol advocates. Do you have your partner exit the vehicle when you go to a military base to p/u or deliver? At a chemical plant (to watch video/ get signed in) for p/u or delivery?

One customer I had to wait at the gate while wife took van in...I am not a US citizen...
and yes I've had to endure them safety videos at refineries....Cenex and Petro Canada
 

piattteam

Active Expediter
OOPS! Let me also say, I DO NOT believe your sleeping/on break partner should have to be disturbed, under any of my previously posted examples. If your sleeping/on break partner is disturbed, and has to exit the sleeper, does your partner, as federal regulation dictates, go "on duty" and then restart his/her 10hr break?
 

OntarioVanMan

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Owner/Operator
OOPS! Let me also say, I DO NOT believe your sleeping/on break partner should have to be disturbed, under any of my previously posted examples. If your sleeping/on break partner is disturbed, and has to exit the sleeper, does your partner, as federal regulation dictates, go "on duty" and then restart his/her 10hr break?

I am in a van..BUT on your log issue....Remember you are entering PRIVATE property..you either are invited in or you get refused...
 

scottm4211

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Owner/Operator
This thread is about inland border checks. The power of a cell phone camera and social media in action.
 
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