Bolt express is a freaking joke...ruining our business

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OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
There are those who have positive comments about companies who pay $1.10 a mile. Just means their happy making $1.10. Not saying Bolt is a bad company by any means... but that contractors have been known to be weird. :p

Weird?

By the boards here..we are perfect and the carriers always mess up...*LOL*

How many post when they mess up? *L*:rolleyes:;)
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
I guess it is all what your expectations are for your business and how YOU PLAN to go about reaching them....this thread talks about bolt brokering loads they bid and can't cover with one of their own contractors, and offering them up for cheap rates to other carriers....well please correct me if i am wrong, but i have talked to enough people in CV's with a few other companies that anyone starting with them that don't already have a contract, are signing on at a flat $.70 cpm....now those same companies broker freight to othr carriers also, are they offering it up as cheap as to only pay the driver $.70 cpm or less???
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Basically CV's are bottom feeders....No real investment, just a regular driver, no special skills, and a dime a dozen and easily replaced....

Do you really think our carrier cares about us?

Know your place in the food chain and deal with it....

That is one reason there is such a heavy turnover...most can't deal with that fact when confronted with the way it is....

Do carriers ever crunch the average numbers on what it costs to operate a CV and MAKE a living?

They crunch their numbers on what they need!

It is up to YOU to crunch your own!
 

jelliott

Veteran Expediter
Motor Carrier Executive
US Army
Ok, the second you hit the submit reply button the answer comes to you....cargo van stupid!!!!! Sorry!
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Cargo Van stupid? Is that a specific breed of stupid?

That should read ..Cargo van------Me stupid..*LOL*

That is what he was referring to...answering his own question...:D


But now ya bring it up...yeah..there is a Cargo Van stupid category!*L*

I think I could be president of that chapter at times..or at least a runner up...*L*
 

jelliott

Veteran Expediter
Motor Carrier Executive
US Army
I really would have to question the breed of all of us for getting in this business!!!! LOL
 

BillChaffey

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
US Navy
In regards to $1.10 per mile for a Cargo Van I would be suprised if there are very many O\O who would turn it down.;)
 
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DcShuffler

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Remember chaps, the cargo van was the beginning of expediting. It is the lowly cargo van that can do 700 miles in 10 hours with no need to stop at the scales or take an 8 hour break. Must I remind all of you "bigger truck" drivers that we are expedite? Our companies may treat us like redheaded step children, and we may act like Danny Bonaduche when we are backed into a corner, but us cargo van drivers will always be a precious commodity to expedite carriers. Period!
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Maybe we need to actually consider that the Van has importance in this work, niche market or how ever you define this work and it should be treated as being important as the trucks thing they are.

So I propose that we start treating them as equals to us big trucks by getting together and demanding that the FMSCA require them to start logging their duty hours just like us. Then they are our equals and we can never put down a Van.
 
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DcShuffler

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Yeah, you won't be singing that tune if the Cargo Van ever gets regulated. I guess if Cargo Vans ever get regulated, the Cargo Van drivers might not see the benefit of driving one and jump up into bigger trucks. And seeing how Cargo Vans can get loads delivered faster than solo driver's in straight trucks, the solo straight truck drivers would be left behind for the team trucks.

Companies who need their freight delivered faster than a solo Straight Truck Driver can get it there will opt to put it on a team Straight Truck or an airplane which is cheaper and faster than the first option.

Also, most of the team Cargo Vans will then rule the van market and the solo van driver will be phased out. This would serve no other purpose but to make expediting a purly team driven gig. So, I hope you guys are ready to bunk up with buba when the FMCA decides to regulate and "BAN THE VAN!"
 

CharlesD

Expert Expediter
Are they ready to pull in each and every van that doesn't have windows? How do they differentiate between over the road vehicles and the work van owned and driven to jobs by an electrician or plumber, or the van used as a personal vehicle by someone? The way I see it, the regulations wouldn't be able to apply to the electrician or the guy using it for personal use and, knowing that, a lot of companies would simply stop putting signage on the vans. If you want to enforce log books in that scenario, you'd have to be stopping every van on the road and a lot of non commercial use vehicles would be severely inconvenienced. I guess someone could suggest that signage would be required, but then again, you can't require a guy driving a van for personal use to put signs on his van, so how do you really know which vans going down the road are freight haulers and which ones aren't. Also, how do you enforce those regulations on the former without seriously inconveniencing the latter? You'd have to require EVERY van to stop at the coops, and I don't think the general driving public would take kindly to that.
 
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