Becoming a newbie

skittles

Expert Expediter
First off, I want to thank everyone that has contributed to this forum. I have been reading posts and archives for the past several months to get a better understanding of this business. While I am still confused about the types of trucks (I'm a female and I'll leave that up to my partner), I have gained a tremendous amount of knowledge about getting into the expedite business in regards to the "many" other aspects of this business (i.e., slow times, freight zones, profitability of taking a load, to name a few). I have spoken to many on the phone and conversed via e-mail to others. What I have found is that everyone I have communicated with are willing to help out in anyway to help my partner and I succeed in this business. An applause to all of you that are so gracious for us "newbies" to want to succeed.

There are many people that just want to make a quick buck and they think they can do it easily in this business. What they don't understand is that 1) you have to be willing to be out on the road for weeks at a time; 2) you're not going to have great weeks every week, you may be sitting for a few days without a load out; 3) you may have problems with your truck or weather delays; 4) a personal crisis, just to name a few. Needless to say, so many people think that expediting is a walk in the park and after reading, reading and reading on this forum, that is not the case.

In a thread entitled "When I was Newbie.", posted by FlameMer, he talked about his experiences starting out and failing and where he is today. He was giving SOUND advice that I appreciated. Many others (need I list) told stories about their situations and others (from Weave about the stockbroker) to express how important that starting with an O/O can be. While many have ignored that advice and went face down losing everything, some have succeeded.

Again, in a thread from Raceman, "Real life reasons to be careful," he stated the costs of getting in your own truck or business and what he's had to deal with in repairs.

I think (this is only my opinion after reading these threads) that since the expedite business hasn't been well known to a majority, those that have been in the business for a long time have made a pretty good amount of money and feel threatened that perhaps their income may decline because of many newbies. When they see a team succeed with very little time in the business, they are envious because they didn't have the same success in that short amount of time. However, what they seem to forget, or what I may think, is that they didn't have the opportunities to (as we do now) to gain the knowledge from websites/forums as this. Also, there wasn't the demand for expedite freight when they began as there is now. Many companies today find that stocking merchandise, supplies, etc., is more costly than to have it expedited, thus more of a demand for expediters.

I have learned a great deal on this website and hope that my partner and I will have the success of some of the newbies. We have the drive and business sense to make our endeavor into this business successful.

As one said in a previous thread, I will tell you that I won't play Russian roulette and be the one person of the 6 that loses and we won't be driving a silver truck.

Skittles,
Tennessee

"If you can't say something nice about someone, than keep it to yourself"
 

terryandrene

Veteran Expediter
Safety & Compliance
US Coast Guard
Good post followed by great advice. We sure wish you well.

Terry and Rene'
 

skittles

Expert Expediter
Thank you Rene and Terry, that means a lot to me and my partner. I wish you the best this upcoming year and perhaps we will meet sometime.

Skittles
 

lap2

Expert Expediter
Best of luck to all of us Tennessee newbies! GO VOLS! We will see you down the road. Regards,lap3 "easier to get forgiveness than permission"
 

Twmaster

Expert Expediter
>"easier to get forgiveness than permission"

Except at a chicken coop....

:D

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Mike N

Faster than a speeding poulet.

Owner/Operator Big 'B'
Experienced
10 years auto transport
2 years local/distance expedite
Laurel, MD (Washington DC area)
 

Tom Robertson

Veteran Expediter
Skittles...

>I think (this is only my opinion after reading these threads) that since the expedite
>business hasn't been well known to a majority, those that have been in the
>business for a long time have made a pretty good amount of money and feel
>threatened that perhaps their income may decline because of many newbies.
>When they see a team succeed with very little time in the business, they
>are envious because they didn't have the same success in that short amount of time.



Perhaps you overlooked the credentials in my signature line. I own a small expediting company (carrier), and cannot hire newbies because of insurance restrictions. Additionally we have a small fleet of company owned trucks on the road, and operate on a much different business model than the major carriers. I have nothing to gain or lose giving this advvice. It is simply meant to caution anyone that this business is not a "pie in the sky" way to early retirement. As a small carrier competing with the giants, it is really quite preposterous for you to “think” that we would be threatened by any individual entering the industry. There are new expediting companiesthat have been starting up every year for the past 20. Many have come and gone and others have prospered. Believe me, there is quite enough freight for all.

The reference to Russian roulette was meant to show you that you chances of succeeding in this industry as a newbie owner operator are even less in your favor than playing Russian roulette.

This advice given to you is sound and based on years of experience. No one is saying you cannot make it starting as an owner operator, and you definitely have all of us on this forum wishing you the best and a very successful career in the expedited trucking industry.

If you heed the advice given, buy a reasonably new truck and have $10K emergency fund in an immediately accessible account, you may be on the winning side of the 50/50 proposition you are getting into. It’s not all about planning,financing,or learning freight lanes,etc... your success will also depend greatly on your carrier and being in the right place at the right time.

I sincerely wish you and your partner the best of luck and great success. We all hope to hear of your travels and triumphs.
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
However, what they seem to forget, or what I may
>think, is that they (certain experienced drivers) didn't have the opportunities to (as we
>do now) to gain the knowledge from websites/forums as this.
>Also, there wasn't the demand for expedite freight when they
>began as there is now.

Skittles makes a VERY IMPORTANT point that merits contemplation by everyone in the EO Open Forum. Things change. Opinions formed years ago based on experience then gained may not be as valuable as it once was, and may be downright harmful.

When the Internet came along, travel agents pretty much fell by the wayside. An experienced and knowledgable travel agent of many years had no advice to offer that people could not later receive easier and cheaper.

When Charles Schwab came along and revolutionized his industry by offering discount brokerage, commissions plumeted and no-load mutual funds ended many broker's careers (not mine, I adapted). The Internet destroyed forever the exclusive market access stockbrokers once provided and charged a pretty penny for.

I'm familiar with a case where an independent political candidate defeated $15,000,000 of combined Demcoratic and Republican opposition with just a $600,000 campaign budget of his own, and thereby fundamentally changed how policical campaigns are conducted today, and how political operatives now work. Old-school operatives either changed their minds or were left behind.

In each of these cases, the availibility of information and the ability to use it made the difference. It did not matter how things had been done for years. It did not matter what was once true. And in many ways, it did not matter how much experience one had. What matteres is people's ability to accept change, let go of obsolete opinions, and adapt to current realities.

Because of EO and other online trucking sites, non-truckers can now come on line, and with a bit of study, gain a firm grasp of the industry and chart one's course. It's not necessary to "pay your dues", "work your way up" or "learn from your mistakes." An intelligent and open minded person can study on line and learn from the successes and failures of others.

Drivers that derive their self-worth and identity from being experienced drivers and hoping for public recognition because of it will, I believe, grow increasingly frustrated when it does not come. Just as online information brought many experienced and wise travel agents, stockbrokers, and political operaatives to the ground, so too will the Internet undermine the perceived value of driver experience in newbies eyes.

That's not to say the contributions of experienced drivers here at EO are unimportant. The exact opposite is true, precicely because they are contributions made on line and thus seen by hundreds if not thousands of people researching the industry.

It is to say that drivers that expect to be respected because of their longevity in the industry have a new hill to climb. In today's trucking industry and in the information age, respect will be earned by the number of newbies you help (not put down) and the quality of infomration you provide.
 

X1_SRH

Expert Expediter
Skittles, a story like yours makes all of our time on these forums worthwhile. You have taken time, read all the posts, formed realistic opinions and expectations, and have established a course of action based on the experiences of newbies and veterans alike. That is what these forums are all about, and you give me renewed faith that we (the participants in these forums)are doing the right thing and it is helping others. Go get 'em, and I sincerely wish you the best. - Scott

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Weave

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Welcome Skittles,

I enjoyed your post, and hope you can get off to a safe, sound start in expediting.

I can assure you however that at least in my case being an experienced expediter I am not envious of anyone new who enters this business and succeeds from the start. I did so myself, and even without the internet or forums. Looking back, some aspects of entering are easier, such as having the forums and much more information to research and plan with. Some aspects are harder. A quick look at many of the hot forum topics will show some of these aspects. I totally understand times change, and I devote a lot of my spare time to watching the changes that occur in the expediting industry, and hopefully am not considered a fuddy-dud by the newbie or newcomer standards now, whatever they are :)

I also want to point out, and others are welcome to correct me if I am wrong, the expediting industry is not an industry that is growing in leaps and bounds every year as some newbies who are researching might think. The industry shows a constant wave of ups and downs, based (more or less) on the national economy. My yearly gross revenues since I started in expediting have basically remained the same as have those of most others in the trucking industry. I've even seen some expediting companies CUT their pay rates in the past few years! However, with time spent in the business, I have profited more each year even with rising costs as I have found ways to be more efficient, although I admit to not being the most efficient monkey on Earth yet. Those things can be researched on this forum too, but also can take time in the business to figure out what works best for one's own application.

I agree with whoever made the Russian Roulette analogy. Enter carefully, and don't expect a whammo start. Avoid as much risk as possible when starting out. Expediting was intended as a money making business for me, but never a drag race against the latest hot dogs or donkeys out there. If you don't construe it as one and start out carefully with the many pieces of advice on this forum, things should come together fine for you if you want your expediting endeaveor to become an accepted establishment and not a here today-gone tomorrow whim.

Have Fun!
-Weave-
 
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