Be careful what you ask for

NoProblem

Expert Expediter
I was in Nashville Tn. waiting about a day for a load. I called dispatch a few times bugging them to get me a run, any run - and here is my story.

The gave me a HOT run: pick up near Louisville Ky. and drop off in San Diego Ca. WOW AWESOME! On my way to the p/u, they called with additional stop to p/u near Indy before proceeding to San Diego.

Paid miles were unsure - somewhere around 2100 or so, they'd tally it up later since it was Saturday and this dispatch seemed to be basically "done on the fly". No problem.

Well, I (solo) drove 2518 (actual) total miles in just over 48 hours and made my delivery 2 hours early - not bad (or "am I crazy?") I thought.

I also thought that once I rested for 24 hours or so that I would get at least another one or two thousand miles and have one heck of a good $$ week.

So now its Monday afternoon, I just made my drop, did my empty call, told them I would be out of service for a day or so and asked them to look for another run, preferably back east but I won't be picky, any run will be fine.

Tuesday, I called to see if there was any freight - nope, no freight.

Wednesday - no freight - and I let them know that I was itchin' and ready to roll anywhere - at least 5 times.

Thursday, no freight. They suggested I drive empty, no pay, to Mo. (1500+ miles) to see if there might be freight there....either that or try Denver Co. (1000+ miles) empty, no pay. I chose Denver since it was a little shorter.

Saturday I'm in Denver, no freight and looks bad, they suggested I try Mo. or perhaps Ne. might have something - I chose Ne., once again, it was shorter. By now, I had been empty and driving for free, (minus fuel) with only getting alot of "perhaps", "maybe's" and "mights" along the way. After having made at least 20 phone calls along the way to dispatch, the basic message as I understood it was - "I am screwed", they could not find freight at all anywhere in the western U.S. and gave me no hope of ever locating any.

By now, I had zero confidence in dispatch EVER finding me a load at all anywhere outside of the tri-state area, I suggested to dispatch that I could wait in Ne. till "hell freezes over and still have no freight" - they basically agreed and suggested "for me keep rolling."

Sunday, I made it home.

Well, here I am, at home in Mi. after deadheading 2500 miles across country while my dispatch could not locate freight or even tell me where there was freight, other than in Wi. - while I was in Denver!

This is a serious question: Am I wrong to depend on dispatch to be smarter than that? By that I mean, shouldn't they be smart enough to know not to send a guy somewhere where there is no hope of any freight at all for 2000+ miles?

I am confident that if I was still in San Diego, I would still be without a load and no hope of any load in sight. What would you do (or have done) if you were me?
 

silverdollar

Expert Expediter
I would not taken a load to the west coast, but if I did I would have rented a room before driving 2500 miles empty. have a nice little 1 or2 week vacation.
 

NoProblem

Expert Expediter
I considered that but I just took a 3+ month vacation and was depending on making $$, not spending them in high rent Ca.

One things for sure, I agree that I will never take another load out west again.
 

RichM

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Can you identify the Carrier you operate for?? That can tell you a lot.The large carriers have sales presence in the west and can generally get you something coming back east.The smaller ones usually concentrate their sales in ia regional basis.
 

Glen Rice

Veteran Expediter
Sounds like you did what you thought was best. Your carrier never should of offered you that load as a single driver! That is probably why there was "NO" load for you. They realized what they asked you to do was totally illegal. Maybe we don't want to know who your carrier is! Better stay local and short on your runs and leave the long loads for the teams.
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
Did you get paid for two loads or one since you made two p/u's?
personally, I would've taken it. If it was FECC, I would've immediately started beating it across I-10 towards Houston or Dallas. If it was a tri-state company, I would've eaten the miles and be happy... unless the rate stunk. So it would cost a couple hundred for fuel. Sounds like your company doesn't use the boards though.
 

NoProblem

Expert Expediter
I don't really want to slam this Toledo Oh. co. They have some 25 or 30 trucks and I really do like them. I just never been through anything like it and am not sure if there was anything else I could've done.

At least where I am now (at home) I know there will be a chance of getting a run somewhere - thats the main reason I came all the way back.
 

NoProblem

Expert Expediter
Sounds like you did what you thought was best. Your carrier never should of offered you that load as a single driver! That is probably why there was "NO" load for you. They realized what they asked you to do was totally illegal. Maybe we don't want to know who your carrier is! Better stay local and short on your runs and leave the long loads for the teams.

Good advice!
 

NoProblem

Expert Expediter
I only got paid for one load with $15 extra stop pay.

Also, had I gotten a return trip, it would have only paid half - thats right, I said half. This company only pays 50% for return trips. Is that normal for expeditors?
 

RichM

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Sounds like Try Hours,if you ran that run as a single it was illegal and guess who pays the fine, You do not want log book violations in California.
 

NoProblem

Expert Expediter
Its not Try Hours.

I actually did get a log book violation in Ca. a few years back - $600 for "incomplete log book" so I agree, it was not the smartest move on my part.

I also learned from that fine - I got DOT'd in Ca. this time too - but NoProblem this time. I'll still never do that again!
 

Wild Bill

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Retired Expediter
I have been through that many times. Once in a very great while you will get lucky and get a return load. It is more the exception than the rule.

Expediting for the most part stops at the Mississippi river, as most folks know.

After a while the only time I took one of those loads was for a change of scenery. Kinda a "Been there, done that" thing.
 

NoProblem

Expert Expediter
Expediting for the most part stops at the Mississippi river, as most folks know.

I sure have an extremely clear understanding of that now!

btw, you should have seen the looks my truck was getting - especially from the a lot of the Mexican drivers out there - ssems they were drooling over it! I guess they do not see many D trucks with sleepers in that part of the country.
 

RichM

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
In your first post you said"Am I crazy"?. I just did the math,if you did this run legally you would have to average 93.25 MPH. In a 48 hour time frame you have a total of 28 hours of driving time legaly. Wonder what kind of mileage you got at that speed. You know we all get tempted by the big bucks offered but think about the consequences. You could have killed some inocent people plus yourself.You could also be looking at extreme fines plus jail time,especially in CA. Your company should not have offered this type of trip to you operating as a single driver. If I was in your shoes I would have said I need another day and chances are they would have come through..
 

LDB

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I'd have been very tempted to check an internet load board and find something on my own. That's presuming I took the load to begin with which I don't think I would. I'm near the end of a 1636 mile run, about 120 left and a midnight delivery. When I finish my "gourmet" jr. bacon cheeseburgers and fries I'll head north again and call dispatch to ask about an earlier delivery. I do have to say I'm quite pleased with this as a first run. I'd be a really happy camper with about 8 runs like this a month even if there were zero other runs.
 

NoProblem

Expert Expediter
It actually took me about 55 hrs from time I started till I delivered, I did take a few good naps along the way, so I did not go straight thru, plus I needed to get a new head light and stopped off at a few Walmarts along the way (I was not about to spend $20 per head light at a truck stop when the high intensity ones are only $11 at Walmart) waisting some 3 or 4 hours in the process, then there was a killer hail storm in Nm, that took about another 3 or 4 hours to get through - and got 7.25 mpg for the trip there.

My company is actually pretty cool, I would have gladly taken another trip like that for the $$ and made out real well for the week.

Its also not like I drove like a mainiac because once ya get into Mo., you can pretty much keep up with the big trucks and cars at 75+mph for the majority of the trip. 77 mph is about the top speed for the D truck I drive - unless I am going down hill, then I can just about toy with 80ish.
 

redytrk

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Those west coast runs usally allways turn out this way.Some times you can work up and down the Pacific Ocean until you get homesick then DH back across the Mississippi.
By the way I wouldnt work for anyone that expected me to run illeagl in this way.If there was a accident,the lawyers would have cleaned you out.That is after the DOT got finished with you!
 

NoProblem

Expert Expediter
I did check the internet boards, so did my company - there just wasn't any freight AFAIK.

I guess I should clarify that my company did try to locate some freight for me, I was kinda hoping that perhaps someone might post a particular source of freight that (I thought) other expediters use when they are out west - or anywhere for that matter - and are willing to take any run for a, if necessary, discount rate.

I've had my fill of gourmet burgers but enjoy!
 

NoProblem

Expert Expediter
Its not that they expected me to run illegal, it was my choice and I fully accepted the run on my own - there is no forced dispatch with these folks and in all honesty, I really do like them and they will not ever force anyone to take any load.

Truth be known, I only ran slightly harder on this run than I normally run - and I used to make these type of runs when I was in a semi w/53' trailer all the time, so to me, "illegal"= BS. I sleep when I am tired and roll when I am loaded - the log book is not normally on my schedule but even at that, I am still legal 99.4% of the time.....if ya don't believe me, you can check my log book anytime. :)
 

truckwife

Expert Expediter
tenten
and your point is????? I am still trying to figure out what your are trying to inform us about. Seems to me you are griping on one end and happy as a lark on the other. Which is it ?? If you are just trying to impress someone with how far you drove this weekend I for one am sorry to inform you it is not working. Personally I have been in the run like crazy for nothing jobs and am now ready to concentrate on the work smarter not harder aspects of trucking. Maybe you should step back and look at this also. Either way to each his own and be careful how you accomplish what you ask for as well.


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