barrys AG to FLA..LEAVE NON-CITIZEN VOTERS ON THE VOTER ROLLS

chefdennis

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Yeap barry knows he need all the votes he can get, and he and his minions are working to make sure even NON-CITIZENS get to vote....


[h=1]Feds to Florida: halt non-citizen voter purge[/h] Th e Justice Department told Florida election officials that they must stop their non-citizen voters purge. Florida argues it is not violating any law.
By Marc Caputo
[h=3]Feds to Florida: halt non-citizen voter purge - Florida - MiamiHerald.com[/h]Th
e Justice Department ordered Florida’s elections division to halt a systematic effort to find and purge the state’s voter rolls of noncitizen voters.

Florida’s effort appears to violate both the 1965 Voting Rights Act, which protects minorities, and the 1993 National Voter Registration Act – which governs voter purges – T. Christian Herren Jr., the Justice Department’s lead civil rights lawyer, wrote in a detailed two-page letter sent late Thursday night.

State officials said they were reviewing the letter. But they indicated they might fight DOJ over its interpretation of federal law and expressed frustration that President Barack Obama’s administration has stonewalled the state’s noncitizen voter hunt for nine months.

“We are firmly committed to doing the right thing and preventing ineligible voters from being able to cast a ballot,” said Chris Cate, spokesman for Secretary of State Ken Detzner, who was ordered by Gov. Rick Scott to conduct the search for potentially ineligible voters.

DOJ’s written demand came hours after the agency refused to comment on the matter to The Miami Herald. It also followed a federal court ruling Thursday that struck down a Republican voter-registration law that a judge found too onerous.
So far, Florida has flagged 2,700 potential noncitizen voters and sent the list to county elections supervisors, who have found the data and methodology to be flawed and problematic. The list of potential noncitizen voters – many of whom have turned out to be lawful citizens and voters – disproportionately hits minorities, especially Hispanics.

About 58 percent of those flagged as potential noncitizens are Hispanics, Florida’s largest ethnic immigrant population, a Miami Herald analysis found. Hispanics make up 13 percent of the overall 11.3 million active registered voters.

Independent voters and Democrats are the most likely to face being purged from the rolls. Republicans and non-Hispanic whites are the least likely.

Under the Voting Rights Act, Florida needs federal approval before it makes changes to voting because five Florida counties – Monroe, Hillsborough, Collier, Hardee and Hendry – had minority-voting troubles decades ago.

"Our records do not reflect that these changes affecting voting have been submitted to the United States District Court for the District of Columbia for judicial review or to the Attorney General for administrative review as required by Section 5 of the Voting Rights Act," Herren wrote.

"Accordingly, it is necessary that they either be brought before that court or submitted to the Attorney General for a determination that they neither have the purpose nor will have the effect of discriminating on account of race, color, or membership in a language minority group under Section 5."

He gave the state until next Wednesday to inform the Justice Department of its planned course of action.

“Specifically, please advise whether the State intends to cease the practice discussed above, so that the Department can determine what further action, if any, is necessary,” Herren wrote.

Herren also said that the National Voter Registration Act bans Florida’s effort because it says “a State shall complete, not later than 90 days prior to the date of a primary or general election for Federal office, any program the purpose of which is to systematically remove the names of ineligible voters from the official lists of eligible voters.”

Florida elections officials have repeatedly said that their efforts comply with all federal laws, which aren’t clearly written. The also say there’s nothing discriminatory or partisan about the effort. It’s simply trying to remove ineligible voters: felons, dead people and noncitizens.

To spot noncitizens, though, the state began comparing voter rolls with a Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicle database that contains some citizenship information that the agency collects when people get a state ID such as a driver’s license.

But the citizenship data in many cases is out of date. That is, many people become citizens after they get their ID and then register to vote. But the highway safety database isn’t updated.

As a result, the state has performed its own checking and double-checking and winnowed down a pool of 180,000 potential noncitizens to a list of about 2,700. It is asking the counties to contact the voters by mail. Those who don’t respond within about two months of being contacted could be stricken from the rolls.

A coalition of liberal-leaning civil rights groups complained to the Justice Department and the state about the process, pointing out that it burdens citizens instead of the government.

Cate, the state elections spokesman, said the state will have a full response soon. The agency also seemed to express frustration with the lack of help from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, which maintains citizenship data but won’t share its database with Florida.

Detzner asked again for DHS help on Thursday.

“We provided information to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security today in hopes that the federal government would help us identify ineligible voters,” Cate said. “While this isn’t a response from DHS as to why they haven’t provided us access to their data, at least we know the federal government knows we take ineligible voters on the voter rolls seriously. We hope the federal government will recognize the importance of accurate voter rolls and support our efforts.”
 

LDB

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That doj putz needs to go to wherever Jimmy Hoffa and Elvis are in hiding and leave Florida alone to do what should be done in every state.
 

witness23

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I'm still laughing at the title of the thread...........lol!!!

Like I've said before, lowest common denominator.
 

davekc

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Based on the employment numbers that came out today, Obama is going to need those illegals to vote.
 

x06col

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Yep, you can get arrested for an expired license plate but not for being here under the right circumstances. Me tink, we need lotsa help.
 

davekc

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Yep, you can get arrested for an expired license plate but not for being here under the right circumstances. Me tink, we need lotsa help.

You can't use words like "tink" and "lotsa". EO member Witness is trying to earn his grammer police badge and those kind of words are a no-no in his book.;)
 

LDB

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I think June Allyson can help with that tinking problem.
 

chefdennis

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I heard that also Muttly...i got the feeling that Mark Levins law firm may be writing the the Legal briefs in this (Iicould be wrong, but he sure had some strong opinions and legal remedies for FLA...) LOL, personally i love it..anything that tells barry and his minions to take a flying ----, is fine with me!! :D
 

layoutshooter

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I believe that ALL of the States should be telling this administration and the Feds in general to 'go pound sand' on MANY issues, like Obama Care. I can only think of on reason that anyone would not want the voter roles up to date and accurate. That would be because that person/people were want to commit voting crimes. ANYONE who believes in a free, honest voting system would want to insure accurate roles. Guess we know where Obama and Co. stand.
 

piattteam

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It is eerie how, so often, I am reading posts/replies on here and I think "this sounds just like me"! Then, I look notice it was written by layoutshooter!!
 

piattteam

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Michelle told me, three weeks ago, that she wants to move back to TN.. So, you know where we WILL be living!!LOL! Will be the Clarksville area.
Our oldest daughter lives in Lancaster- across the river from the White Rose City!
 

layoutshooter

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Michelle told me, three weeks ago, that she wants to move back to TN.. So, you know where we WILL be living!!LOL! Will be the Clarksville area.
Our oldest daughter lives in Lancaster- across the river from the White Rose City!


TN is WAY too hot for me! Michigan is WAY too hot for me as well but at least there is LOTS of big water to play on/in. About the only place I mights enjoy living in as much as I do Michigan would be Alaska. Lots of big water there too!

I have family in Uniontown and the Altoona areas as well.
 

witness23

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You can't use words like "tink" and "lotsa". EO member Witness is trying to earn his grammer police badge and those kind of words are a no-no in his book.;)

Wow.....didn't realize my "seen" comment would leave such a mark on you dave.
 

layoutshooter

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Michelle doesn't like the winters here- gotta go south!

I feel for ya! The WINTERS down there are too HOT for me! LOL!! I spent 3 days up around your way, back in the '80's, fighting a forest fire. That was when I was on the Southern York County Forest Fire Crew/PA Hot Shot Crew. GOOD TIMES! THAT kind of heat I could handle!
 
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