Bain Documents: Romney Offshore Investments Used 'Blockers' To Avoid Taxes

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The private equity firm founded by Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney made use of arcane techniques in several of its Cayman Islands-based funds to avoid U.S. taxes, according to a trove of Bain Capital's private audit and finance records made public on the website Gawker today.

The audited financial statements of one of the Cayman Islands funds make note of the use of "blocker" entities, which are used to help retirement accounts and nonprofit entities avoid some taxes. Financial statements for another fund note that it "intends to conduct its operations so it will … not be subject to United States federal income or withholding tax ..."

Those details emerge on the statements of two funds in which Romney still holds a sizeable investment, according to the financial disclosure statements he filed when he announced his bid for president.

The publication of the Bain Documents on the Gawker website could rekindle debate about Romney's role at the company, and specifically about Bain's decision to domicile many of its funds in offshore locations known as tax havens.

Critics say Romney's investments in these funds offer just the latest example of how wealthy Americans can shelter their investments to limit the amount they pay in taxes.

"The only reason they structure it that way is to avoid tax," said Rebecca Wilkins, senior counsel with the group Citizens for Tax Justice. "It just confirms what everyone already believes about the tax system -- that it's rigged. That the rules are rigged to favor the well off."

Romney campaign officials did not immediately respond to questions about the newly published papers. But when ABC News first reported on Bain's Cayman Islands accounts, campaign officials said the purpose of locating offshore was to help attract money from foreign investors. The accounts provided no tax advantage to American investors like Romney. Romney, the campaign said, has paid all U.S. taxes on income derived from those investments.

"The tax consequences to the Romneys are the very same whether the fund is domiciled here or another country," a campaign official said at the time.

The issue of Romney's taxes have plagued his campaign. Just last week, a press conference set up to focus on Romney's Medicare plan turned into a back and forth about Romney's tax returns, and whether he had ever paid less than 13.9 percent.

Romney called the question "small-minded," lecturing reporters about the other issues facing American voters that he deems more important than his tax returns.

"I just have to say given the challenges that America faces -- 23 million people out of work, Iran about to become nuclear, one out of six Americans in poverty -- the fascination with taxes I paid I find to be very small minded compared to the broad issues we face," he said at the time. "But I did go back and look at my taxes and over the past 10 years I never paid less than 13 percent. I think the most recent year is 13.6 or something like that."

The admission by Romney came after he told ABC News in an interview that he wasn't sure if he'd ever paid less than 13.9 percent but said that he'd "be happy to go back and look."

Romney has so far released what is legally required of him, one complete year of tax returns from 2010 and an estimate for his 2011 returns. He filed an extension on his 2011 returns and the campaign has said they will be released in full by October.

He has said that he will not release more than two years and is following the precedent set by Sen. John McCain during the 2008 election.

The newly released documents rekindle questions about one of the more technical tax questions that has emerged about Romney's investments – the use of so-called "blocker" entities. The blocker is a paper company that serves as a buffer between the investor and the fund holding the investments, Wilkins explained. That means the investment income can be counted as a dividend and in some cases avoid income tax.

In the financials for the Bain Capital Asia Fund, for instance, the audit describes the establishment of blocker corporations to hold more than $92 million in contributions from the fund.

Some experts have pointed to the blockers to help explain how Romney has been able to amass between $20.7 million and $101.6 million in a tax-free IRA, many times more than the typical amount an IRA can hold. Romney has not responded to questions about his IRA


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xiggi

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It is still legal and the funny part is maker is set up with the same type of business in the caymens . Wonder why they didn't mention that?

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chefdennis

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If anyone in business isn't taking full advantage of the IRS codes to limit their "tax" exposure and pay the least amount they can, then they are just foolish... What Romney does is totally legal and done by everyday...
 

BobWolf

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Its simple, If the liberal multi billionares feel sooooo guilty that they dont pay thier fair share, why dont they at least lead the way. How about they empty thier bank accounts, and forfiet every penny earned to the government. I know for certain that wont happen. As far as Romney is concerned at least he can prove his citizenship.
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xiggi

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Come on bob if your going to make an argument at least make it sensible.

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chefdennis

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LOL, I can only hope to be rich enough to be able to make having offshore bank accounts make sense...

It amazes me that people that will take the simple deductions for themselves that lower their tax exposure will whine about someone else doing the same thing...:rolleyes:
 

OntarioVanMan

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I think most of us try to hide our hard earned dollars from the taxman....the more money you have the more options are available...
 

muttly

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I think most of us try to hide our hard earned dollars from the taxman....the more money you have the more options are available...

Romney is for closing loop holes in the tax code. If they exist in the mean time nothing wrong with using them. Of course the statists/Dems believe you are being unpatriotic hiding those hard earned dollars.
 

OntarioVanMan

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Romney is for closing loop holes in the tax code. If they exist in the mean time nothing wrong with using them. Of course the statists/Dems believe you are being unpatriotic hiding those hard earned dollars.

Yeah ok....LOL.....some loopholes are so huge you could drive a truck thru...almost think it was on purpose...
 

asjssl

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Wouldnt you think if you KNEW you were running for president....take a few less deductions.pay the max..make your self look really good.. whats a few million to romney...he will make that back 10 fold after he is out of office....

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muttly

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People in this country that are obsessed with Mitt Romney's money and what he does with it, should stop whining and man up. :D
 

layoutshooter

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MORE power to him! I wish I knew how to do it. Just ANOTHER left wing news bunch going on about nothing.
 

davekc

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The argument is totally hilarious. Pelosi and that Wasserman Shultz lady have quite a few bucks in those Caymen accounts. Must be ok since they aren't running for president. :rolleyes:
Issue has no value other than to point out that they are trying to maximize their investments.
 

layoutshooter

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The argument is totally hilarious. Pelosi and that Wasserman Shultz lady have quite a few bucks in those Caymen accounts. Must be ok since they aren't running for president. :rolleyes:
Issue has no value other than to point out that they are trying to maximize their investments.

Pelosi has not released HER tax returns either. Why should Romney? It is NOT a requirement for the office. I would think that, even though college transrcripts are not a requirement, they are more on point than tax returns are.
 

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Pelosi has not released HER tax returns either. Why should Romney? It is NOT a requirement for the office. I would think that, even though college transrcripts are not a requirement, they are more on point than tax returns are.

One would think that but the MSM says no. :eek:
 

layoutshooter

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One would think that but the MSM says no. :eek:


IF I were Romney and I really WANTED to win in Nov I would release my transcripts and put out a resume, just as if I was applying for a job. I would NOT release any more tax returns. BUT, as I have said before, Romney is trying far harder not to lose than he is trying to win.
 

muttly

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Pelosi has not released HER tax returns either. Why should Romney? It is NOT a requirement for the office. I would think that, even though college transrcripts are not a requirement, they are more on point than tax returns are.

Right, the college transcripts will tell us once and for all that Obama gamed the system and got into college nefariously as a foreign exchange student. Jumping in line and taking the place of someone more deserving. Release those transcripts Barry!:D
 

layoutshooter

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Right, the college transcripts will tell us once and for all that Obama gamed the system and got into college nefariously as a foreign exchange student. Jumping in line and taking the place of someone more deserving. Release those transcripts Barry!:D

I would not even SUGGEST that Barry release his. I would just release mine, along with a resume that Barry would NEVER be able to compile. Put it in the papers, online etc, Put Barry's next to it, blank of course, and just let it speak for itself.
 

muttly

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I would not even SUGGEST that Barry release his. I would just release mine, along with a resume that Barry would NEVER be able to compile. Put it in the papers, online etc, Put Barry's next to it, blank of course, and just let it speak for itself.

Good idea. It would be hillarious to see Barry's blank page. Romney's would probablyI'be filled with straight A's. The media of course would say that he is only book smart. Spent all his time sheltered away reading books and wasn't a well rounded individual. I'm sure that is how they will spin it.
 

layoutshooter

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Good idea. It would be hillarious to see Barry's blank page. Romney's would probablyI'be filled with straight A's. The media of course would say that he is only book smart. Spent all his time sheltered away reading books and wasn't a well rounded individual. I'm sure that is how they will spin it.

That is exactly why you put their resumes side by side. I could find several high school kids with better resumes with more experience than Barry had when he first ran. He SURE cannot tout his 4 years in office. That WOULD sink him!
 
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