Babies or tissue?
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No innocent person will be executed when irrefutable proof is required. That's sort of the key thing about irrefutable. Then again, you proved the whole point again because certainly there's nobody any more innocent than the unborn and yet it's fine to execute them.
letzrockexpress
Veteran Expediter
Word!.....
letzrockexpress
Veteran Expediter
letzrockexpress
Veteran Expediter
Pregnancy is VERY easy to avoid. Everyone knows how. Methods for prevention range from free, 100%, effective to expensive, less effective methods.
Excuses are cheap but excuses often lead to VERY expensive results.
Excuses are cheap but excuses often lead to VERY expensive results.
letzrockexpress
Veteran Expediter
I haven't seen anyone bring in the over population issue to this argument. There are far and away too many people in the planet. Sustainability is a real problem. 2 Billion people on the planet in 1940. Approximately 9 Billion in 2010. Not enough food. Dirty air. Irresponsible mothers and fathers. Carbon Dioxide is serious threat to out existence. Abortion is just one part of much larger conversation we need to have...
Who gets to decide who is the "excess" people? Who gets to decide how to get rid of them. Not enough food? We burn food in cars we have so much. The air is FAR cleaner than it was 40 years ago and getting cleaner. Same can be said for the water. Most sources of carbon dioxide emissions produce less, in many cases MUCH less, than they did 40 years ago.
In the United States, and much of North America, this is being done at the same time we are seeing major increases in wildlife habitat and increases in the majority of wildlife species.
Could it be better, yep. Is it better than it has been for decades? Without a doubt.
Anyone is free to do their own individual part to reduce the crowd any time they choose. It's when they prematurely end an innocent life not their own that it becomes wrong. Want a cleaner environment? Get your elected officials off their you know what and building nuclear power plants. There's no point in going on. Our usual group that can't get it won't this time either.
The truth is that is a human being with a lifetime ahead of him/her provided some evil entity(ies) don't kill him/her. If that human life is meaningless then all human life is meaningless. For "you", as in all those readily supporting such killing, Hitler was right. Life is meaningless. Let's not stop with those babies in your thumbnails. Let's add those with Down's Syndrome, those with crippling disabilities like CP, and the list goes on. "You" are wrong and will always be wrong with that position.
The Chinese government, of course!
Nobody said that life is meaningless, except you. But you don't know any more about what that potential baby means to the potential parents than anyone else who feels qualified to decide what they should do about it.
When a spouse or family makes the decision to 'pull the plug' on someone, does that make their life meaningless? When a terminally ill person decides to end the pain on their own timetable, does that make their life meaningless?
I contend that it's precisely the opposite: life is meaningful, and people who have to make the hardest choices know that, better than you.
When a spouse or family makes the decision to 'pull the plug' on someone, does that make their life meaningless? When a terminally ill person decides to end the pain on their own timetable, does that make their life meaningless?
I contend that it's precisely the opposite: life is meaningful, and people who have to make the hardest choices know that, better than you.
pandora2112
Seasoned Expediter
I've heard of Chernobyl. Are you aware that currently 20% of U.S. power comes from nuclear? That if all electric power were nuclear it would eliminate upwards of one billion tons of greenhouse gas annually? That nuclear is the safest power source when properly run?
