Average Speed
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When we were with Roberts Express & ConWay Now they based loads ona 45 mph average,i.e. 450 miles, 10 hours.
However, when we were with Bolt they went with a 50 mph average. At the time I thought no big deal 5 mph faster but it really did make a big difference especially if you got a late jump from the shipper. It just seemed to jam up everything and put us under the eight ball for the entire load. Of course dispatch would not adjust the delivery time. "Do the best you can!?", which put an extra burden. They would only adjust at the last minute which I thought was really unfair to the customer and the driver.
Big Al
However, when we were with Bolt they went with a 50 mph average. At the time I thought no big deal 5 mph faster but it really did make a big difference especially if you got a late jump from the shipper. It just seemed to jam up everything and put us under the eight ball for the entire load. Of course dispatch would not adjust the delivery time. "Do the best you can!?", which put an extra burden. They would only adjust at the last minute which I thought was really unfair to the customer and the driver.
Big Al
not only did conway dispatch at 45 mph, they built an hour in at the shipper and the receiver for a two hour window. they did dispatch faster but they always asked first. we have always figured everything on 50 mph and normally we make it in plenty of time. we also dont let getting behind because the shipper delays us stress us out. we simply call in tell dispatch what time we will be there and leave it up to them. we also send a qc mssg or when we had no qc a text or email just so we had proof of communication. failure to plan or act on the part of dispatch does not constitute an emergency on my part. we all can only get there so fast and we will not speed to make up time lost by no control of ours.
When we were with Roberts Express & ConWay Now they based loads ona 45 mph average,i.e. 450 miles, 10 hours.
However, when we were with Bolt they went with a 50 mph average. At the time I thought no big deal 5 mph faster but it really did make a big difference especially if you got a late jump from the shipper. It just seemed to jam up everything and put us under the eight ball for the entire load. Of course dispatch would not adjust the delivery time. "Do the best you can!?", which put an extra burden. They would only adjust at the last minute which I thought was really unfair to the customer and the driver.
Big Al
When I leased on with Bolt Express I had to start chewing on tums daily. J/K. Me and my friend used to call bolt loads "mission impossibolt!" I never really had too many problems with the delivery times at bolt, I even managed to squeeze in some sleep breaks on a lot of the longer loads that they gave me. It was mostly the pick-ups that were jammed up. Try going from Erie PA to ST Mary's PA in 2 hours. Sure as heck looks like you can do it math-wise, but not when you look at how far off the beaten path ST Marys is. I also never had a problem with dispatch adjusting the delivery time when I was delayed at the shipper. They did however freak out when i'd take a 5 hour sleep break and keep on calling me to see if i'm going to make it to the consignee on time. I used to tell them that i've ben doing this job a long time and know how to manage my time and that their computer average was a joke. I can do 1k miles in less than 24 hours, take a 4-5 hour sleep break in there, and still average over 60 miles per hour.
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comet_4298
Seasoned Expediter
Landstar is the only one I've been with that was base on 45mph.
Guess they factor the time when they're talking to the customer...........because by the time they talk to me and I agree to do it;then send all info over QC and I get direction to the place........if it was based at 35mph you would be late.
Guess they factor the time when they're talking to the customer...........because by the time they talk to me and I agree to do it;then send all info over QC and I get direction to the place........if it was based at 35mph you would be late.
FedexCC bases on 45 plus time for pickup...I think it's half hr for vans... If pickup takes extra time, or there is traffic delay, they bump time, and notify receiver...simple as that.
That's one thing I've always liked about them. As long as I keep them updated, never been a problem.
Dale
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That's one thing I've always liked about them. As long as I keep them updated, never been a problem.
Dale
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"Impossibolt" that's a hoot but it's reality. They wanted me to make a pickup with 200 miles of deadhead. It was a nice long run but I had about 3 hours to make it without any Interstate travel.
I'm just wondering if any others i.e. Panther, TriState, Fedex CC, etc have gone to the 50 mph average or any other besides Bolt.
Big Al
Sure Miss our time at Con Way,almost all fond memories"Impossibolt" that's a hoot but it's reality. They wanted me to make a pickup with 200 miles of deadhead. It was a nice long run but I had about 3 hours to make it without any Interstate travel.
I'm just wondering if any others i.e. Panther, TriState, Fedex CC, etc have gone to the 50 mph average or any other besides Bolt.
Big Al
I've had panther give me 3 hours to do 180 miles before and I had to drive 85 miles an hour to make it there on time. Pick-up was so tight I didn't even have time to think. Ended up getting there late because Panther sent me to the wrong plant. There were three different facilities for the same plant in the same town. I ended up getting a service failure for it. Every carrier pushes drivers to get loads. I've had at least two bigger carriers tell me that they will lie to NLM and tell them that they have a truck closer than they really do just so thay can take the load away from another carrier. Then they deal with everything else after the bid has been awarded. I think every carrier does this to some extent.
AMonger
Veteran Expediter
You got a service failure? Why? When I get sent to the wrong address, I wait there. I notify dispatch the I have arrived, on time, and when it turns out to be the wrong address, I wait for them to change the pick up address with a new pickup time. That way, your on time at the first address and on time at the second address. Companies won't pay for a second stop unless you authorize it beforehand. If you just go on your own, you don't get paid for the second stop. So call and wait there; that way you're still on time and you get paid the second stop
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You know the problem with bad cops? They make the other 5% look bad.
AMonger
Veteran Expediter
Ok my two companies, one is anal and the other is more laid back. When is the more laid back company dispatches me, the agreement is emailed to me, and all the pertinent information is there, including the pick up time. Even though it may be a rush job, they're always seems to be enough time. With the other company, I get texted the information and it's usually spotty. I don't know why they don't include all the necessary information, but they don't. There is usually not even a pickup or delivery time on it, and if I call them for it, it's usually very unrealistic. They don't seem to realize that when I'm dispatched, I'm not sitting in the driver's seat with the engine running and my hand on the gear shift lever. Frequently, when I'm dispatched, I'm in bed, which means I have to get up, get dressed, maybe have to take a whiz or get a cup of coffee. That never seems to be an issue with the other company.
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You know the problem with bad cops? They make the other 5% look bad.
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You know the problem with bad cops? They make the other 5% look bad.
I used to be like you what you guys are talking about...NOT anymore....I get there when I get there.period...I don't sweat the time.......It is on dispatch NOT me to make things right...THEY took the load, THEY set the time, THEIR mistake...
I just inform them right off.."It ain't happin" give them my ETA and they have to deal with it....
I just inform them right off.."It ain't happin" give them my ETA and they have to deal with it....
as i stated before. failure to plan on the part of dispatch does not constitute an emergency on my part. no sense in letting p/u times stress you out or cause you to be unsafe. its just not worth it. just keep them in the loop. communication is everything.
exactomundo.....:d
I'll let you newbees know one thing....everything is NOT fair and equal out here...you mess with dispatch too many times you might as well pack your bags and move it on down the road.......They have their "list" the "short list" the Do'ers and whimps....The guys that say "oh I can do long ones" and then whimp out and "I need to sleep".....then their are the ones who get the job done....and they can count on you...
Your reputation will make you money...this is more for us CV'ers...
Your reputation will make you money...this is more for us CV'ers...
You just keep on doing that...companies hate to get what shippers call "nickle and dimed to death" with add on charges and you'll lose that customer, just because you want your pound of flesh to drive across the road...
AMonger
Veteran Expediter
Well, I suppose if they don't want to pay that fee, they shouldn't give a bad address in the first place.
Aside from that, I don't have an agreement with the customer. I signed a lease with the expedite company. They're the ones who owe the second stop charge. Whether or not they can or choose to recover it from the customer is for them to decide.
Now, before you shift gears to, "Keep doing that and the company will terminate your lease or let you sit..." what kind of reasoning is it that, when the lease agreement offered by the company says, "Here's the program: ABCDE." looks on you as a troublemaker if you say you're entitled to C in a given circumstance? What kind of sense does that make? I didn't twist the carrier's arm to include C; they wrote C in there themselves and offered it to me. If they think they should let the customer skate on C in a given instance, that's up to them. But they still owe it to me. They said so themselves when they wrote that into the lease.
Now, generally, if it truly is just across the road, then the time differential that we were talking about doesn't apply, because driving across the road won't make you late, so the whole issue never comes up. If it truly is across the road, sometimes it's more trouble than it's worth to sit there while the extra charges are approved. But otoh, if the customer is already being incredibly cheap with the rate, maybe the accessorials are the only thing that evens it up.
If you don't agree with the extra stop charge, surely you at least agree with the first part, that when you arrive at the address given before the pickup time, you're NOT LATE, even if then turns out that it's at the other warehouse at another address, which was the original point. They wanted you at 123 Main Street no later than 7, and that's where you were at 7. No service failure is possible.
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You know the problem with bad cops? They make the other 5% look bad.
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No problem....carry on...
Which companies bid loads for 45 mph average and which ones use 50 mph for average?
Big Al
I think Express-1 bids 45 mph for T/T and S/T and 50 mph for Sprinters and Cargo Vans, (we Smaller units don't have to scale). Well, that was the reason I was given.
LOL- I had a load picking up one time, and I was on my way, 20 min into the run I get a call saying I was running 1 3/4 late. So, whats your point, I said..... 145 miles on a two lane road with no less than 50 speed zones that went to 25, 35 and 45 mph. I was told if I would do 50 mph I would be ok. School buses, road work, one lane, small towns. Ok so you going to pay my tickets for speeding and running lights and stop signs? Ended up being 15 min late.......I was late before I even left the truck stop, "well, call us if you're going to be late" Why call you, I'm telling you now I'm going to be late....
LOL.....hey, hey.....done that too....I love the "call us if you are going to be late" part.....hey doo doo...I am telling you now.....gee whiz...