Assange: Obama should resign if approved UN spying

RLENT

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"MADRID — President Barack Obama should resign if it can be shown that he approved spying by US diplomatic figures on UN officials, the founder of WikiLeaks said in an interview published Sunday. "The whole chain of command who was aware of this order, and approved it, must resign if the US is to be seen to be a credible nation that obeys the rule of law. The order is so serious it may well have been put to the president for approval," Julian Assange told Spanish daily El Pais.

"Obama must answer what he knew about this illegal order and when. If he refuses to answer or there is evidence he approved of these actions, he must resign," he added during an Internet chat interview published online. WikiLeaks threw US diplomacy into chaos when it started releasing more than 250,000 classified State Department cables on November 28, creating an international firestorm as American diplomats' private assessments of foreign leaders and politics have been publicly aired.

According to one of the documents, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton asked for UN personnel's telephones, emails, credit card details and frequent flier numbers. The United States and other governments said the release of the documents broke their laws.

Assange gave the interview to El Pais on Saturday from an undisclosed location. The 39-year-old Australian is believed to be in Britain, and a report said he could be arrested this week.
WikiLeaks has come under intense pressure to close since it began releasing the trove of US State Department cables. The site has already been forced to change its domain name and hop-scotch to servers around the globe as successive companies and countries bent to US arguments branding its divulgations over the past week "illegal".

It has also come under repeated cyber-attack, through a tactic known as distributed denial of service (DDoS) in which thousands of computers connect to its servers in a concerted attempt to knock them off-line. Mirror websites, which replicate WikiLeaks's data, have sprung up on servers in various countries. Interpol, meanwhile, has issued a "red notice" against Assange alerting all police forces that he is a wanted person in Sweden, which wants to question him "in connection with a number of sexual offenses", charges he denies.

"The organisation is strong. We have a lot of support, however we also have many attacks of different forms. From ongoing mass DDoS attacks to smears and the legal issues," said Assange. He said WikiLeaks had "dozens" of people who were helping the organisation deal with the cyber-attack and set up the mirror websites "but it takes a lot of time for us to manage the process". "We are automating that process and will soon have hundreds. If there is a battle between the US military and the preservation of History, we have insured History will win."

Assange said he and others who work for WikiLeaks had received "hundreds" of "specific" death threats from "US military militants". "That is not unusual, and we have become practiced from past experiences at ignoring such threats from Islamic extremists, African kleptocrats and so on. Recently the situation has changed with these threats now extending to our lawyers and my children," he added. Assange said he believed the "ripples are just starting to flow throughout the world" from the release of the State Department cables.
"But I believe geopolitics will be separated into pre and post cablegate phases," he said."

Over 200 mirrors up and running around the world as of 30 minutes ago.

Original article:

Obama should resign if approved UN spying: WikiLeaks founder
 

greg334

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How about the UN stop spying on us for a change?

You do know that they have a section setup just to spy on countries and one just for the US?
 

layoutshooter

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How about the UN stop spying on us for a change?

You do know that they have a section setup just to spy on countries and one just for the US?


There is FAR more than that going on. Spies are everywhere, working for every country and wacko group on the planet. While I TOTALLY agree that Obama should resign, and soon, it has NOTHING to do with spying on one of the most slimy groups of scum on this earth.
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
How about the UN stop spying on us for a change?

You do know that they have a section setup just to spy on countries and one just for the US?


There is FAR more than that going on. Spies are everywhere, working for every country and wacko group on the planet. While I TOTALLY agree that Obama should resign, and soon, it has NOTHING to do with spying on one of the most slimy groups of scum on this earth.
 

greg334

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So Layout Layout,

you would rather have biden biden as president?

I guess there must be a joke somewhere because the UN doesn't have to follow the rule of law and can rape, pillage and starve people but the US has to when it comes to spying on a corrupt organization that is bent on taking over the world at the same time raping, pillaging and starving people?
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
So Layout Layout,

you would rather have biden biden as president?

I guess there must be a joke somewhere because the UN doesn't have to follow the rule of law and can rape, pillage and starve people but the US has to when it comes to spying on a corrupt organization that is bent on taking over the world at the same time raping, pillaging and starving people?


No I don't want Biden either. Nor do I want ANYONE else that I see out there. I just don't have ANY use for Obama.

The UN is a BAD organization. It is hell bent on controlling everything and everybody and will stop at NOTHING to gain that control. Obama's support of the UN is just ONE of the reasons I have no use for that bum.
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
So Layout Layout,

you would rather have biden biden as president?

I guess there must be a joke somewhere because the UN doesn't have to follow the rule of law and can rape, pillage and starve people but the US has to when it comes to spying on a corrupt organization that is bent on taking over the world at the same time raping, pillaging and starving people?


No I don't want Biden either. Nor do I want ANYONE else that I see out there. I just don't have ANY use for Obama.

The UN is a BAD organization. It is hell bent on controlling everything and everybody and will stop at NOTHING to gain that control. Obama's support of the UN is just ONE of the reasons I have no use for that bum.
 

greg334

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Well see I think they may be behind all of this, as I was asked by Rlent "who".

We only hear a bit of what they do and their past Unethical, immoral crimes against humanity are many more than we the public know about. There is a serious question why hasn't Assange gone after the UN like the US, they are guilty in what they do as much as the US and most of the world is in what they have done, but his focus has been only on the US.
 

Turtle

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Wait a minute! There are people at the UN spying on each other?

I'm outraged. Shocked, even.

<snort>
 

Pilgrim

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If BHO actually did approve spying on the UN, it would be one of the few things he's done right while in office. Somebody had better be keeping an eye that bunch of crooked potentates and banana republic dictators - one of the few advantages to having their headquarters in our country is that it makes spying on them easier.
 

Turtle

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Why do you think the UN is in New York?
Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer.
 

layoutshooter

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Why do you think the UN is in New York?
Keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer.


You hit that nail right on the head. Having them close makes certain types of spying far easier as well. We control the building and the utilities that it uses. It also keeps many of the "rotten eggs" in one basket so to speak.
 

greg334

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We don't control the building, nor do we control much of anything else. They are a separate entity that has their own police force, their own security and their own intelligence organization. The feds, NYCPD and others are not even allowed on the property without permission or serious cause.
 

layoutshooter

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We don't control the building, nor do we control much of anything else. They are a separate entity that has their own police force, their own security and their own intelligence organization. The feds, NYCPD and others are not even allowed on the property without permission or serious cause.

That is NOT what I meant. By control I meant that it is on OUR land (I know, they own it etc) Having that place in NYC gives us opportunities that we would NOT have if it were located in say, Moscow or Berlin. Proximity is everything.
 

greg334

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Well see I think it would not matter when you have idiots screaming that spying went on at the UN.

TO tell you the truth I hold the entire organization in contempt for a number of reasons and regardless how you look at it, Bin Laden was correct in thinking that they were the real cause of his problems.
 

RLENT

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That is NOT what I meant. By control I meant that it is on OUR land (I know, they own it etc)
Actually, the land it is on is considered international territory, which is also subject to most local, state, and federal laws ..... IOW: it's not on "our" land ...
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
Actually, the land it is on is considered international territory, which is also subject to most local, state, and federal laws ..... IOW: it's not on "our" land ...

Yep, I know. But luckily it resides within what is still the United States and therefor easily controlled or removed when needed. It is in NYC. It is an "Island of Corruption" flowing in a "Sea of Scum".
 
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