Anyone using the "Obama Phone"?

davekc

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Good question? Lawrence may have a untapped source of new members.:cool:
 

Humble2drive

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Knew of this program before Obama but seems to have turned rather large.

Your too funny!
The article states that there is no such thing as an "Obama Phone" yet you just couldn't resist. I swear if this trucking thing doesn't work out you have a job waiting for you at Fox News.;)

Yep, the program was started by Ron in 1985 and as expected it started growing when Jr. started the great recession.

Luckily, President Obama is stepping up and having success in reigning it in and saving tax dollars.

"comprehensive reforms to the program had saved nearly $43 million and were on track to save $200 million in 2012. The reforms included eliminating unnecessary subsidies, cutting off duplicative subscriptions and requiring better proof of eligibility. "
 

layoutshooter

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How did JR start the 'Great Recession'? :confused: The Democrats were in control of the House when it started, were they not? :confused:
 

davekc

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Your too funny!
The article states that there is no such thing as an "Obama Phone" yet you just couldn't resist. I swear if this trucking thing doesn't work out you have a job waiting for you at Fox News.;)

Yep, the program was started by Ron in 1985 and as expected it started growing when Jr. started the great recession.

Luckily, President Obama is stepping up and having success in reigning it in and saving tax dollars.

"comprehensive reforms to the program had saved nearly $43 million and were on track to save $200 million in 2012. The reforms included eliminating unnecessary subsidies, cutting off duplicative subscriptions and requiring better proof of eligibility. "

Watch the video. The lady is quite happy with her "Obama Phone". That is where she thinks it is from. That is the current thinking. She probably doesn't even know who Reagan is.
As for Fox News, got my application pending.:cool:
 

LDB

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I can't say what I'd say because the filter would mask it all. Perks for leeches. All of the perks should be cut off and a lot of the leeches would suddenly find the incentive to go to work.
 

davekc

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Just another "gimmie". Of course they need them to look for jobs yet they say there aren't any.
Gee....why have the phone? Give them a landline with just 911 capabilities.
But of course, I did have to go to Fox as this wouldn't see the light of day on NBC.
 

layoutshooter

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No, don't GIVE them a landline will 911. They can WORK for that line. Along with all the OTHER stuff they get for doing NOTHING! Soon, when the money runs out and the freebies run out, they will DEMAND their freebies and likely get violent when they are cut off.
 

Cacique

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Your too funny!
The article states that there is no such thing as an "Obama Phone" yet you just couldn't resist. I swear if this trucking thing doesn't work out you have a job waiting for you at Fox News.;)

Yep, the program was started by Ron in 1985 and as expected it started growing when Jr. started the great recession.

Luckily, President Obama is stepping up and having success in reigning it in and saving tax dollars.

"comprehensive reforms to the program had saved nearly $43 million and were on track to save $200 million in 2012. The reforms included eliminating unnecessary subsidies, cutting off duplicative subscriptions and requiring better proof of eligibility. "

My friend remember this: you don't know what you had till is gone"

I assumed you was born and raised in this WONDERFUL COUNTRY where everything WAS POSSIBLE.
You had live in democracy all your life and you don't have a clue what communism is like "well till now"
This country is going to hell because people keep thinking OBAMA will fix everything with all those old school communists ideas.

And i said this because i came to this country running away from people who got in power in VENEZUELA with the same ideas democrats are trying to bring here and if voters dont stop this PENDEJOS. It will be good bye to the old USA once know as "THE LAND OF THE FREE"



GO GA DAWGS!!!
 

Humble2drive

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How did JR start the 'Great Recession'? :confused: The Democrats were in control of the House when it started, were they not? :confused:

Jr did not start the "great recession", I was just being antagonistic.:eek:
The framework for the recession was put in place years ago when the U.S. Turned on the printing press and never found the off button.
Some of Jr's contributions came when he became the first president in U.S. History to lower taxes during a war. Put the war on the china credit card. Let the "pay as you go" policy expire. Started the huge public entitlement program Medicare part D. All while the repubs had control of the house.

The harsh reality is that we the people are ultimately responsible for the recession because people expect those "gimmies" that you talk about and it is impossible for anyone to get elected without those promises. Look what happened to Ron Paul.:(
 

davekc

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Jr did not start the "great recession", I was just being antagonistic.:eek:
The framework for the recession was put in place years ago when the U.S. Turned on the printing press and never found the off button.
Some of Jr's contributions came when he became the first president in U.S. History to lower taxes during a war. Put the war on the china credit card. Let the "pay as you go" policy expire. Started the huge public entitlement program Medicare part D. All while the repubs had control of the house.

The harsh reality is that we the people are ultimately responsible for the recession because people expect those "gimmies" that you talk about and it is impossible for anyone to get elected without those promises. Look what happened to Ron Paul.:(

And that is basically Romney's biggest hurdle. One is promising spending and one is talking about cutting. Once the pendulum swings where we have 51 percent on entitlements, the republicans or anything representing them are basically done. Then you get to the we are like much of Europe.
 

xiggi

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What happened to Ron Paul didn't have much to do with cuts he wanted people liked a lot of his ideas. Saying things like Iran deserves a nuke is what happened him.

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layoutshooter

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"Some of Jr's contributions came when he became the first president in U.S. History to lower taxes during a war."


The problem is not the tax rate, it is the amount of spending. Every war in our history has been paid for with borrowed money. There never has been 'pay as you go' in this country. Our over spending on everything, from the military to the freebies, is why we are in the economic mess we are in and both parties are to blame.

This mess in the middle east, as far as the U.S. is concerned started LONG before JR was elected. No president, nor congress, has dealt with it in an effective manner regardless of how one feels it should been dealt with.




 

Humble2drive

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The problem is not the tax rate, it is the amount of spending. Every war in our history has been paid for with borrowed money. There never has been 'pay as you go' in this country. Our over spending on everything, from the military to the freebies, is why we are in the economic mess we are in and both parties are to blame.

I agree. Both parties and the American citizens are to blame.

BUT . . .

The problem is a combination of tax and spend and every other President increased taxes during major wars to lower the amount borrowed:

*. . . *if you’re going to have a war, you should figure out how to finance it in a responsible way, as has been done in the past. As I was saying earlier, this is the first major war where we’ve had no tax increase. We’ve had a tax cut. It’s the first major war where we’ve had increases in non-essential, non-security-related domestic spending. It’s the first war which is financed entirely, almost entirely, by supplementals. No other war has that been the case. Even Vietnam was only 25 percent supplementals. This war has been paid for by borrowing. And 40 percent of that comes from abroad. So you’re not only building up debt, you’re building up debt to other countries. We really haven’t had that sort of rigorous oversight that the founding fathers anticipated there would be. And I think that has meant that many of the war costs haven’t been very transparent, and you haven’t had a debate on how to finance the war. Those are the kinds of issues that we need to think about as we go forward.
Hormats: Iraq War Historic for Lack of Cost Transparency - Council on Foreign Relations

There has been a pay as you go law and it was effective:

In the initial PAYGO regimen, enacted in the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1990 (OBRA '90), by statutory requirement, if legislation enacted during a session of Congress had the effect of increasing the projected deficit for the following year, a "sequestration" would be triggered. A sequestration is an across the board spending reduction of non-exempt mandatory programs to offset this increase in the deficit, as calculated by the Office of Management and Budget.

The PAYGO statute expired at the end of 2002. After this, Congress enacted President George W. Bush's proposed 2003 tax cuts (enacted as the Jobs and Growth Tax Relief Reconciliation Act of 2003), and the Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement, and Modernization Act.[5] The White House acknowledged that the new Medicare prescription drug benefit plan would not meet the PAYGO requirements.
PAYGO - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

layoutshooter

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I agree. Both parties and the American citizens are to blame.

BUT . . .

The problem is a combination of tax and spend and every other President increased taxes during major wars to lower the amount borrowed:



There has been a pay as you go law and it was effective:

They increased taxes during SOME wars, not all. They did during WWII, BUT, production was SO high and there was SO much money moving it did not cut into things too bad. Kennedy put one of the biggest tax cuts into place DURING the Vietnam war. The result of those tax cuts INCREASED personal income and government revenues. As low taxes always do. The Kennedy tax cuts reversed many of the WWII tax rates which, after the war production ended, were crippling the economy.

The problem has NEVER been the amount of revenue, it has ALWAYS been over spending.

Pay as you go was a gimmick. Nothing more than smoke and mirrors accounting and dangerous cutting of REQUIRED, under the Constitution, (defense) spending while continuing to spend massive amounts on vote buying. (social programs)




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