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[pjjjjj]

I wanted to reply to someone's post, but it was in the Panther section, so, sorry to start a new thread about the same thing.

I have been told, whether 'they' will admit it or not, (with 'they' being 'anycarrier'), that 'they' will give precedence to drivers who are already out on the road, as opposed to drivers who are parked at home. I believe the unspoken rule makes sense too, since it costs drivers more money to be out waiting on the road, than it does if they are at home. There are soooo many things that override the FIFO rule!

Start your engine ChrisGa23!

 

[OntarioVanMan]

I wanted to reply to someone's post, but it was in the Panther section, so, sorry to start a new thread about the same thing.

I have been told, whether 'they' will admit it or not, (with 'they' being 'anycarrier'), that 'they' will give precedence to drivers who are already out on the road, as opposed to drivers who are parked at home. I believe the unspoken rule makes sense too, since it costs drivers more money to be out waiting on the road, than it does if they are at home. There are soooo many things that override the FIFO rule!

Start your engine ChrisGa23!

Over the years It has been my general experience...unless they really need you..those at home "sometimes" get dispatched around....with certain carriers...

 

[nightcreacher]

my experience,what I've found,a truck in motion will sometimes get dispatched,as they are ready to go,as a truck sittiing may be in the truck stop not actually ready to go

 

[OntarioVanMan]

at some carriers, the dispatchers actually think, believe it or not....they have one sitting at home in their lazyboy and remote...and one sitting in a tin can of sweltering heat...which one they going to pick?

 

[greg334]

For some odd reason that thinking is a bit flawed.

It should not matter where the van/truck is sitting, or if the guy/gal is at home - it is a resource to be used to make money.

Once these great thinkers in dispatch cross the line to know how to 'judge' which one should move opposed to which one shouldn't, then we something that can evolve into something that can be described as FAVORITISM (OH NO I said the F word).

If you use the premise that dispatchers are so frickn' busy that they have a toilet at their desk, then it is impossible for dispatch even approach the idea that they are looking at who is at home and who is on the road.

But according to some, dispatch seems to have the time to determine where the driver is and if he deserves to move and then look at others in the area to see if they may deserve a load offer.

Amazing...

But alas, with some companies, they have enough work not to approach the home time dispatch syndrome, and keep every truck in their fleet moving.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

For some odd reason that thinking is a bit flawed.

It should not matter where the van/truck is sitting, or if the guy/gal is at home - it is a resource to be used to make money.

Once these great thinkers in dispatch cross the line to know how to 'judge' which one should move opposed to which one shouldn't, then we something that can evolve into something that can be described as FAVORITISM (OH NO I said the F word).

If you use the premise that dispatchers are so frickn' busy that they have a toilet at their desk, then it is impossible for dispatch even approach the idea that they are looking at who is at home and who is on the road.

But according to some, dispatch seems to have the time to determine where the driver is and if he deserves to move and then look at others in the area to see if they may deserve a load offer.

Amazing...

But alas, with some companies, they have enough work not to approach the home time dispatch syndrome, and keep every truck in their fleet moving.

Greg..without a benefit of a doubt..when time allows the dispatcher discretion rule comes into effect..the manual over ride button can get worn out....especially when it is a supervisor or senior person involved to begin with....I've seen it across many carriers the truck on the road will get the call before the homey....

 

[ATeam]

Our home express center is Minneapolis, which is generally a good one. In seven years with the same carrier, we have never noticed or had reason to wonder if on-road trucks get dispatched ahead of us when we are home. The dispatch experience seems the same as any other good express center.

When we are near the Twin Cities, our carrier changes our status to "At Home" even if we remain in service, are fifty miles from the house and plan not to go home but to keep running. If being "At Home" makes a difference with loads dispatched, it is not a difference we have noticed.

Just before we entered the business, our carrier ditched a "bubble up" rule that required at-home trucks to be in service a certain amount of time before being dispatched as other trucks in the cue. Ditching that rule did not hurt the carrier in any way I know or heard about.

 

[OntarioVanMan]

Our home express center is Minneapolis, which is generally a good one. In seven years with the same carrier, we have never noticed or had reason to wonder if on-road trucks get dispatched ahead of us when we are home. The dispatch experience seems the same as any other good express center.

When we are near the Twin Cities, our carrier changes our status to "At Home" even if we remain in service, are fifty miles from the house and plan not to go home but to keep running. If being "At Home" makes a difference with loads dispatched, it is not a difference we have noticed.

Just before we entered the business, our carrier ditched a "bubble up" rule that required at-home trucks to be in service a certain amount of time before being dispatched as other trucks in the cue. Ditching that rule did not hurt the carrier in any way I know or heard about.

That is a good thing Phil...I am glad to hear the Feds treat you as if you were in a TS instead of home...it really should make no difference anyhow...

 

[chefdennis]

Lets see...when i get close to home like I did this afternoon, I will come home, but stay in service. It makes no difference if Iam in service as i am now or have gone back in service after being OOS for a weekend ir whatever...I play h*ll getting out of here...and i don't believe it as as thing to do with if i am at home or someone else is here but not at home...I don't think my home area is that great for freight....I almost always DH to Chicago and get a load offer before I get there.

LOL, all of that being said, dispatch just called and i have a little less then a 100 mile run from Monroe to Flint...at least it pays over a buck a mile.....

So forget all of that stuff above...what do i know....guess i need to stay at a holiday end express soon.....

 

[AMonger]

Is it unreasonable to pick a policy and then implement it? I mean, either it's strict FIFO or strict closest unit or strict closest in-service and on-the-road unit...as long as we know what the standard is up front, right? Like the strike zone: pick one, make it known in the rule book, and stick to it, whatever it is.

 

[FIS53]

For many companies I think the FIFO works for the most part and they follow that guideline. However we all know of dispatchers who have on many occasions utilized their favorite driver/team to get a job done. I've seen many a time that the driver out on the road or waiting available (not at home) get the job before an at home gets a call. In fact happened to me 2 weeks ago. I cleared a call and headed home (all of 10 miles away) but got a call and I know of a driver who was at home closer than I was (confirmed next day his position at call time).

Greg does have a point with most times dispatch is too busy to really sit there and decide who's where and doing what to pick and choose, but if one of the available lot is a good driver/team a wee bit of preference may be involved in the choice of who gets first option on a call. I do know an outfit that is picking and choosing all day long and it is really stupid what vehicle is being sent for some of the work.
Rob

 

[chefdennis]

Set a rue and follow it?? Come on...they are in business just as we are...we are not their employees and we don't work for them...so however they decise to do thing be it a policy or whatever happens at the moment, its done with their buttom line in mind, not ours...

FIFO is just like accurate miles when the give you a load offer...It took me about 6 loads to figure out most of the time they were wrong, but not so wrong that they were going to correct it...the two issues are about even and something I live with and don't really worry about....

What happens when there are 3 CV's ahead of you and you know it and they call you to take a load that is 2800 lbs...its over weight for all of the trucks on the board...but one driver has his van listed for 3000 lbs.....and he is the 4th guy...you can bet he is getting that load...while it seems off the topic, it still factors into who gets what load in what order....

 

[AMonger]

Set a rue and follow it?? Come on...they are in business just as we are...we are not their employees and we don't work for them...so however they decise to do thing be it a policy or whatever happens at the moment, its done with their buttom line in mind, not ours...

FIFO is just like accurate miles when the give you a load offer...It took me about 6 loads to figure out most of the time they were wrong, but not so wrong that they were going to correct it...the two issues are about even and something I live with and don't really worry about....

What happens when there are 3 CV's ahead of you and you know it and they call you to take a load that is 2800 lbs...its over weight for all of the trucks on the board...but one driver has his van listed for 3000 lbs.....and he is the 4th guy...you can bet he is getting that load...while it seems off the topic, it still factors into who gets what load in what order....

Well of course he would get it, if the others can't. I'm just saying it might not matter which method a company uses as long as it's specified up front so everybody knows the strike zone, so to speak.

As a former co-worker used to say, "A double standard would be great. It would be a reduction in the number of standards in play."

 

[OntarioVanMan]

Well of course he would get it, if the others can't. I'm just saying it might not matter which method a company uses as long as it's specified up front so everybody knows the strike zone, so to speak.

As a former co-worker used to say, "A double standard would be great. It would be a reduction in the number of standards in play."

There is just too many variables to have any set rules..there is no "strike zone" it is constantly changing...

 

[greg334]

How about the basic rule of making money?

My God sometimes all of this bs does, is hurt the company's bottom line.

Who cares if the guy is at home or the dispatcher has favorites, what matters is if the company can use the resources it has to move the customer's freight. If the company doesn't want to use it's resources to the fullest, should people even bother with it?

 

[letzrockexpress]

great thinkers in dispatch

In most cases I think this would qualify as an Oxymoron....

 

[Shadowpanda]

I'm with Phil, at least so far as the Fed is concerned and it even seems that they call me BECAUSE I'm at home and they feel like I've been there too long.

 

[skyraider]

I'm still new at this game of expediting, but it appears that way to many people have to much time on their hands while in their truck or cv to dream up all these scenarios from dispatching to how fed x or whoever should run their companies. Just do ur job which is point A to point B and all this bs is not productive at all. Some of this stuff i compare to military hearsay and rumours that someone dreams up,,,(( Just do ur job and deliver the goods)). The rumour mill will live forever.

 

[greg334]

The funny thing is Sky, the smart companies listen to these 'discussions' and use it to better themselves. The BIG companies ignore any complaints and advice because of their arrogance.

If people just did their jobs, there wouldn't be any improvements to this work.

 

[skyraider]

The funny thing is Sky, the smart companies listen to these 'discussions' and use it to better themselves. The BIG companies ignore any complaints and advice because of their arrogance.

If people just did their jobs, there wouldn't be any improvements to this work.

amen well said, ty