"Another" Waste of Our Money!

Poorboy

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According to a Column in: Before It's News, It says that The Tax Payers in the Recession Ridden United States Might be surprised to find that Obumma and His Administration are Spending Tax Payers Money on Refurbishing Mosques Over Seas. If You Want to see the Pictures of these Mosques then go to the Web Site!
That's Just One More Reason why that this P.O.S. Has to go!
 

Turtle

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The above, and the Blog post at Before It's News, is a little off the mark. It's not like the US is running around refurbishing mosques. Sheesh. This is what happens when people read stuff and believe it at face value, because it already fits well with their preconceived notions and prejudices. They get duped.

The really funny thing about this is, "Before It's News" makes itself out to be some Cracker-Jack breaking news site, and then when the MSM picks it up it's then news, but you got it from him first. Once it becomes news, the Blogger then toots his own horn with a "Now It's News" section where he links the MSM sites that have picked up the story. Apparently, no one ever clicks those links, or if they do they don't pay any attention. In the case of this story, he has two links, one to where he got the story from in the first place, and one that contains the URL for the page you are currently viewing, which of course will simply refresh the page you are on.

From the Blogger, who has the audacity to call himself the "No Spin Zone", we have this little gem, worded in a very special way so as to become, essentially, a lie:


"The US recently paid to refurbish the Amr Edn El Aas Mosque in Cairo
. The Mosque was named after the Islamic Conqueror of Christian Eqypt."

Well, no, the US didn't pay to refurbish the Amr Ebn El Aas Mosque (dood spelled it wrong) Mosque in Cairo. "Paid to refurbish" explicitly implies that the US footed the bill. It did not. The US paid a portion of the refurbishing costs, and a small portion at that. The government of Egypt footed almost the entire bill, with USAID contributing less than $80,000 of the $15 million project.

For more than 20 years, contaminated groundwater, in part from leaking sewers and the rise and fall of the Nile, threatened the structural integrity of several buildings and monuments in Old Coptic Cairo. The water gradually rose until it reached within 20 inches of the main floor of the 1,300-year-old Amr Ebn El Aas Mosque, the oldest mosque on the African continent. The main floor of the mosque and other structural elements were threatened, action was required to rescue the site and the surrounding landmarks from further deterioration.


The project lowered the groundwater under the main floor of the mosque to safe levels and the Egyptian Supreme Council of Antiquities conducted restoration work to allow the return of worshipers and visitors. Improved sewage services installed as part of the project benefit the 140,000 citizens who live near the mosque.


Another mosque refurbishing project was mentioned by Mr. No Spin Zone
, where he states, "The US Ambassador to Tanzania, Alfonso Lenhardt, recently assisted in a ribbon cutting ceremony for the US paid refurbishing of the Kizimkazi Mosque in Tanzania."

Again, "US paid refurbishing" implicitly states that the US paid for the refurbishing of the oldest mosque on the east coast of Africa. The US did not. The US contributed $67,000 to the project.

If Mr No Spin Zone would have done his journalistic homework, rather than merely distilling inflammatory bits and pieces from another Blog post at the Bloog Section of the Washington Times, then he would have come across even more mosques to poop his pants about, and to get others to poop theirs, too.


OK, you might ask why we are spending money to help refurbish mosques. Well, we're not, really, at least not in that sophomorically limited context.


This is part of The U.S. Ambassadors Fund for Cultural Preservation is administered by the US Department of State’s Cultural Heritage Center and provides direct grant support for the preservation of cultural sites, cultural objects, and collections, as well as forms of traditional cultural expression, in eligible countries around the world.

The Ambassadors Fund was instituted in 2001 under the Administration of
NOT Obama. It wasn't even created by an Administration, it was created by Congress. Well crap. How can we blame Obama for this anyway? I know, let's just blame him anyway. Done.

Since its creation by the U.S. Congress in 2001, the Ambassadors Fund has provided support for more than 550 cultural preservation projects in more than 100 countries. This accomplishment represents a contribution of more than $20 million towards the preservation of cultural heritage worldwide. More importantly, it shows the depth of America’s respect for the cultural heritage of other countries.


Here are links to the policy and about American life and culture. This one is to the U.S. Department of State's Bureau of International Information Programs website, the information page on the
Ambassadors Fund for Cultural Preservation.

And this one is the link to the US Department of State's website, the Cultural Heritage Center, under which the
Ambassadors Fund is administered.

At the second link you will find links to various annual reports going back to 2001, as well as a searchable database to look up individual projects. You will also find a detailed report of the 2010 awards for the funding of cultural heritage, where you will find listed such abhorrent wasteful expenditures such as $76,135 spent to help restore the late 16th century Grand Mosque in Tongxin, China, $27,440 spent on preventive conservation of the Mongolian National Modern Art Gallery in Mongolia, $31,180 for the restoration of 17th and 18th century Paintings from the Compania de Jesus Church in Arequipa, Peru, $53,870 for the restoration of he 6th century Vushtrri Castle in Kosovo, and $30,466 for the restoration and preservation of documentation of Traditional Pygmy Music in the Congo. OMG. Where's my froth bib?

 
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RLENT

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The Ambassadors Fund was instituted in 2001 under the Administration of NOT Obama. It wasn't even created by an Administration, it was created by Congress.
WHAT ?

You mean that this wasn't entirely created by Obama hiz bad self ?

(.... in full, direct collusion with Osama bin Laden, Ayman al-Zawahiri, and various elements of the Tailban, of course)

Now hold on here ...... wait just a cotton-pickin' minute .... 2001 ...... ?

Hmmmm ..... who controlled the Presidency and Congress that year ?

Oh ..... yeah ..... Republicans had the Presidency and both Houses of Congress ..... at least until May 24th - when that turncoat Jeffords switched parties .... and they lost the Senate .....

So ..... at a minimum, they had at least the House and the Presidency for the entire year ..... President had to sign the bill, House had to pass it .....

Well ..... nevermind I guess .....

Gullible and naive .... subject to manipulation ..... remember folks: you heard it here first ..... really before it was news (at least to some apparently)
 
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OntarioVanMan

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Now that is interesting...the GOP and or Conservatives passed this...what a kick in the pants for some supporters in here that want a return of the same....*LOL*
 

witness23

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according to a column in: Before it's news, it says that the tax payers in the recession ridden united states might be surprised to find that obumma and his administration are spending tax payers money on refurbishing mosques over seas. If you want to see the pictures of these mosques then go to the web site!
That's just one more reason why that this p.o.s. Has to go!

...fail...
 
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Poorboy

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...fail...

Fail???????? Nahh,I Didn't Fail at all!! As Stated in Previous Posts: I Just Put them Out there as I Get them and let Everyone else who have nothing better to do with their time, go through the Trouble of Proving and or Disproving them..Sooooo No Failure Here:D Besides, Some of the answers From "Some" of the People are quite Funny..:D
 

Turtle

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Fail???????? Nahh,I Didn't Fail at all!! As Stated in Previous Posts: I Just Put them Out there as I Get them and let Everyone else....
Sorry, that dog don't hunt. You were duped by a moron and bit hard. Otherwise you'd have never said, "That's Just One More Reason why that this P.O.S. Has to go."

My advice, and it's worth at least twice what you paid for it, is instead of reading stuff on the Internet and immediately thinking it's true, do exactly the opposite - assume it's false.

Ninety percent of the stuff I read on the Internet, my first thought is, "What a load of crap."

And more often than not, I'm right.
 

witness23

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Fail???????? Nahh,I Didn't Fail at all!! As Stated in Previous Posts: I Just Put them Out there as I Get them and let Everyone else who have nothing better to do with their time, go through the Trouble of Proving and or Disproving them..Sooooo No Failure Here:D Besides, Some of the answers From "Some" of the People are quite Funny..:D

Once again.....FAIL.....
 

RLENT

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Now I could be wrong on this (the old memory ain't as good as it used to be) ..... it wouldn't be the first time ... and probably wouldn't be the last ...... but the real irony here on this one:

...... now wait for it .......

...... former detective ......
 

Poorboy

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Now I could be wrong on this (the old memory ain't as good as it used to be) ..... it wouldn't be the first time ... and probably wouldn't be the last ...... but the real irony here on this one:

...... now wait for it .......

...... former detective ......

Narcotics Detective to be Precise:D But What's that have to do with this Thread?? Answer: Not a Darn Thing! Now answer me this Ole Wise One:rolleyes:.. As been previously Stated by me in "Other" Threads, I Don't Bother to check if It's true or not, as I have a Life Other Than sitting on this computer trying to Belittle someone Elses Posts unLike Some Others. A Feeble attempt at best..I Just Put them Out as I Get them and let the Rest who don't have another Life do that! Which like I said before I Find Quite Humorous....If you have a personal ax to grind with that Other Law Enforcement Department because you didn't get your own way and continue to Pout about it, Don't try and Drag me into it, Deal with the Other Dept. :D
 

Poorboy

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Sorry, that dog don't hunt. You were duped by a moron and bit hard. Otherwise you'd have never said, "That's Just One More Reason why that this P.O.S. Has to go."

My advice, and it's worth at least twice what you paid for it, is instead of reading stuff on the Internet and immediately thinking it's true, do exactly the opposite - assume it's false.

Ninety percent of the stuff I read on the Internet, my first thought is, "What a load of crap."

And more often than not, I'm right.

Oh Yeah, That Dog does Hunt as That's the way I Do It!

And my Comment regarding the P.O.S. has to go Also Still Goes and was Put in there for someone else..
 

Poorboy

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And it's probably why you're an ex-narc, because you're reckless and irresponsible and not to be trusted.

Totally WRONG :rolleyes: I Retired from that Division! So I Would stick to your Researching Posts and Threads because Your Good at that, But You Don't know anything About me and Until you do I suggest Sticking to what you do Know about:D As Far as Being Trusted? You Obviously don't have a Clue as to what I was Trusted with!
 
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Turtle

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All I know about you is what and how you post - you post a lot of crap, and do so irresponsibly.

So, either you were a fine upstanding narc and retired with honors, and have since become senile, or there's more to the story that explains your posting proclivities.
 

witness23

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I'd quit while you're ahead poboy. I will have to say though, it is entertaining watching you get owned.
 

RLENT

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Narcotics Detective to be Precise But What's that have to do with this Thread??
One might think that as a detective, you had been previously involved with investigating things, discovering facts, and ascertaining the actual truth of certain matters .... and then reporting that to others .....

If you had done the above for any length of time, it might have become almost second nature ..... part of who you are as a person ...... and that perhaps this might have continued on throughout your life, in other areas than just your professional career .....

Of course, if that isn't what you did, then your posting here in the manner you do, wouldn't be at all out of character, now would it ?

Now answer me this Ole Wise One ..... As been previously Stated by me in "Other" Threads, I Don't Bother to check if It's true or not, as I have a Life Other Than sitting on this computer trying to Belittle someone Elses Posts unLike Some Others. A Feeble attempt at best ..... I Just Put them Out as I Get them and let the Rest who don't have another Life do that! Which like I said before I Find Quite Humorous....
..... uhmm .... was there a question in there somewhere that you wanted me to answer ?

In any event, thank you for your confession .... admitting to being utterly irresponsible when it comes to passing along unvetted info of dubious validity (and therefore of no real value) ........ as though it was actually true .....

I'm sure folks have taken note .....

If you have a personal ax to grind with that Other Law Enforcement Department because you didn't get your own way and continue to Pout about it, Don't try and Drag me into it, Deal with the Other Dept.
Whatever dealings I have had with corrupt law enforcement really doesn't have much to do with my commentary on your posts generally, and certainly not with this one specifically ....

I just thought it was funny (hilarious actually) that a former detective could be so careless in researching and reporting on matters of such great import to the body politic ......
 
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Poorboy

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One might think that as a detective, you had been previously involved with investigating things, discovering facts, and ascertaining the actual truth of certain matters .... and then reporting that to others .....

If you had done the above for any length of time, it might have become almost second nature ..... part of who you are as a person ...... and that perhaps this might have continued on throughout your life, in other areas than just your professional career .....

Of course, if that isn't what you did, then your posting here in the manner you do, wouldn't be at all out of character, now would it ?


..... uhmm .... was there a question in there somewhere that you wanted me to answer ?

In any event, thank you for your confession .... admitting to being utterly irresponsible when it comes to passing along unvetted info of dubious validity (and therefore of no real value) ........ as though it was actually true .....

I'm sure folks have taken note .....


Whatever dealings I have had with corrupt law enforcement really doesn't have much to do with my commentary on your posts generally, and certainly not with this one specifically ....

I just thought it was funny (hilarious actually) that a former detective could be so careless in researching and reporting on matters of such great import to the body politic ......

Oh Yes It Does Since you were the One who Brought up my Former job into this:rolleyes: Once again, It's Apparent that you Obviously didn't get your way with that Other Department you Continue Pouting about it so you don't hesitate throwing that up every chance you get..So get over it!

Ok Laughing Boy, Like I said before "Numerous Times" and what Part didn't or Don't you get? I put them out there "JUST" The way I Get them and Leave the Researching to those who want to be research them! And will Continue to do so. Now, What part of that do you Not Understand? My Previous Job Has NOTHING to do with it, And If you are Too Naive or Whatever to grasp onto that, then that's just Too Bad! Now, You have a Nice Day:D
 

Poorboy

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All I know about you is what and how you post - you post a lot of crap, and do so irresponsibly.


So, either you were a fine upstanding narc and retired with honors, and have since become senile, or there's more to the story that explains your posting proclivities.

So,what are you now The Posting Police?

Oh, I can assure you that I am Far from Senility. And for the Record, I did Retire with Honors with Numerous Citations from the D.E.A. The F.B.I. U.S.Secret Service, Alcohol Tobacco and Fire Arms, Border Patrol, My Department, and the Department that I was Assigned to!

Then don't read them, Just that Simple! Utilize the Ignore system that E.O. has! Because I don't give a Fat Babies Butt what you think or If you read what I Post!:rolleyes:
 
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