An example for the USA?

louixo

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Salute the Danish Flag - it's a Symbol of Western Freedom

In 1978-9 I was living and studying in Denmark.
But in 1978 - even in Copenhagen, one didn't see Muslim
immigrants. The
Danish population embraced visitors, celebrated the exotic, went
out of its
way to protect each of its citizens. It was proud of its new
brand of
socialist liberalism - one in development since the
conservatives had lost
power in 1929 - a system where no worker had to struggle to
survive, where
one ultimately could count upon the state as in, perhaps, no
other western
nation at the time. The rest of Europe saw the Scandinavians as
free-thinking, progressive and infinitely generous in their welfare
policies. Denmark boasted low crime rates, devotion to the
environment, a
superior educational system and a history of humanitarianism.
Denmark was also most generous in its immigration policies - it
offered the
best welcome in Europe to the new immigrant: generous welfare
payments from
first arrival plus additional perks in transportation, housing and
education. It was determined to set a world example for
inclusiveness and
multiculturalism. How could it have predicted that one day in
2005 a series
of political cartoons in a newspaper would spark violence that
would leave
dozens dead in the streets - all because its commitment to
multiculturalism
would come back to bite?
By the 1990's the growing urban Muslim population was obvious -
and its
unwillingness to integrate into Danish society was obvious. Years of
immigrants had settled into Muslim-exclusive enclaves. As the Muslim
leadership became more vocal about what they considered the
decadence of
Denmark's liberal way of life, the Danes - once so welcoming -
began to feel
slighted. Many Danes had begun to see Islam as incompatible with
their
long-standing values: belief in personal liberty and free speech, in
equality for women, in tolerance for other ethnic groups, and a
deep pride
in Danish heritage and history.
The New York Post in 2002 ran an article by Daniel Pipes and
Lars Hedegaard,
in which they forecasted accurately that the growing immigrant
problem in
Denmark would explode. In the article they reported:
"Muslim immigrants.constitute 5 percent of the population but
consume
upwards of 40 percent of the welfare spending."
"Muslims are only 4 percent of Denmark's 5.4 million people but
make up a
majority of the country's convicted rapists, an especially
combustible issue
given that practically all the female victims are non-Muslim.
Similar, if
lesser, disproportions are found in other crimes."
"Over time, as Muslim immigrants increase in numbers, they wish
less to mix
with the indigenous population. A recent survey finds that only
5 percent of
young Muslim immigrants would readily marry a Dane."
"Forced marriages - promising a newborn daughter in Denmark to a
male cousin
in the home country, then compelling her to marry him, sometimes
on pain of
death - are one problem"
"Muslim leaders openly declare their goal of introducing Islamic
law once
Denmark's Muslim population grows large enough - a
not-that-remote prospect.
If present trends persist, one sociologist estimates, every
third inhabitant
of Denmark in 40 years will be Muslim."
It is easy to understand why a growing number of Danes would
feel that
Muslim immigrants show little respect for Danish values and
laws. An example
is the phenomenon common to other European countries and the
U.S.: some
Muslims in Denmark who opted to leave the Muslim faith have been
murdered in
the name of Islam, while others hide in fear for their lives.
Jews are also
threatened and harassed openly by Muslim leaders in Denmark, a
country where
once Christian citizens worked to smuggle out nearly all of
their 7,000 Jews
by night to Sweden - before the Nazis could invade. I think of
my Danish
friend Elsa - who as a teenager had dreaded crossing the street
to the
bakery every morning under the eyes of occupying Nazi soldiers -
and I
wonder what she would say today.
In 2001, Denmark elected the most conservative government in
some 70 years -
one that had some decidedly non-generous ideas about liberal
unfettered
immigration. Today Denmark has the strictest immigration
policies in Europe.
( Its effort to protect itself has been met with accusations of
"racism" by
liberal media across Europe - even as other governments struggle
to right
the social problems wrought by years of too-lax immigration.) If
you wish to
become Danish, you must attend three years of language classes.
You must
pass a test on Denmark's history, culture, and a Danish language
test. You
must live in Denmark for 7 years before applying for
citizenship. You must
demonstrate an intent to work, and have a job waiting. If you
wish to bring
a spouse into Denmark, you must both be over 24 years of age,
and you won't
find it so easy anymore to move your friends and family to
Denmark with you.
You will not be allowed to build a mosque in Copenhagen.
Although your
children have a choice of some 30 Arabic culture and language
schools in
Denmark, they will be strongly encouraged to assimilate to
Danish society in
ways that past immigrants weren't.
In 2006, the Danish minister for employment, Claus Hjort
Frederiksen, spoke
publicly of the burden of Muslim immigrants on the Danish
welfare system,
and it was horrifying: the government's welfare committee had
calculated
that if immigration from Third World countries were blocked,
75 percent of the cuts needed to sustain the huge welfare system
in coming
decades would be unnecessary. In other words, the welfare system
as it
existed was being exploited by immigrants to the point of eventually
bankrupting the government. "We are simply forced to adopt a new
policy on
immigration. The calculations of the welfare committee are
terrifying and
show how unsuccessful the integration of immigrants has been up
to now," he
said.
A large thorn in the side of Denmark's imams is the Minister of
Immigration
and Integration, Rikke Hvilshoj. She makes no bones about the
new policy
toward immigration, "The number of foreigners coming to the
country makes a
difference," Hvilshøj says, "There is an inverse correlation
between how
many come here and how well we can receive the foreigners that
come." And on
Muslim immigrants needing to demonstrate a willingness to blend
in, "In my
view, Denmark should be a country with room for different
cultures and
religions. Some values, however, are more important than others.
We refuse
to question democracy, equal rights, and freedom of speech."
Hvilshoj has paid a price for her show of backbone. Perhaps to
test her
resolve, the leading radical imam in Denmark, Ahmed Abdel Rahman
Abu Laban,
demanded that the government pay blood money to the family of a
Muslim who
was murdered in a suburb of Copenhagen, stating that the
family's thirst for
revenge could be thwarted for money. When Hvilshoj dismissed his
demand, he
argued that in Muslim culture the payment of retribution money
was common,
to which Hvilshoj replied that what is done in a Muslim country
is not
necessarily what is done in Denmark. The Muslim reply came soon
after: her
house was torched while she, her husband and children slept. All
managed to
escape unharmed, but she and her family were moved to a secret
location and
she and other ministers were assigned bodyguards for the first
time - in a
country where such murderous violence was once so scarce.
Her government has slid to the RIGHT, and her borders have
tightened. Many
believe that what happens in the next decade will determine
whether Denmark
survives as a bastion of good living, humane thinking and social
responsibility, or whether it becomes a nation at civil war with
supporters
of Sharia law. And meanwhile, Americans clamor for stricter
immigration
policies, and demand an end to state welfare programs that allow
many
immigrants to live on the public dole. As we in America look at
the enclaves
of Muslims amongst us, and see those who enter our shores too
easily, dare
live on our taxes, yet refuse to embrace our culture, respect our
traditions, participate in our legal system, obey our laws,
speak our
language, appreciate our history . . we would do well to look to
Denmark,
and say a prayer for her future and for our own.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Salute the Danish Flag - it's a Symbol of Western Freedom

In 1978-9 I was living and studying in Denmark.

But in 1978 - even in Copenhagen, one didn't see Muslim immigrants. The Danish population embraced visitors, celebrated the exotic, went out of its way to protect each of its citizens. It was proud of its new brand of socialist liberalism - one in development since the conservatives had lost power in 1929 - a system where no worker had to struggle to survive, where one ultimately could count upon the state as in, perhaps, no other western nation at the time. The rest of Europe saw the Scandinavians as free-thinking, progressive and infinitely generous in their welfare policies. Denmark boasted low crime rates, devotion to the environment, a superior educational system and a history of humanitarianism.

Denmark was also most generous in its immigration policies – it offered the best welcome in Europe to the new immigrant: generous welfare payments from first arrival plus additional perks in transportation, housing and education. It was determined to set a world example for inclusiveness and multiculturalism.

How could it have predicted that one day in 2005 a series of political cartoons in a newspaper would spark violence that would leave dozens dead in the streets - all because its commitment to multiculturalism would come back to bite?

By the 1990's the growing urban Muslim population was obvious -
and its unwillingness to integrate into Danish society was obvious. Years of immigrants had settled into Muslim-exclusive enclaves. As the Muslim leadership became more vocal about what they considered the decadence of Denmark's liberal way of life, the Danes - once so welcoming - began to feel slighted. Many Danes had begun to see Islam as incompatible with their long-standing values: belief in personal liberty and free speech, in equality for women, in tolerance for other ethnic groups, and a deep pride in Danish heritage and history.

The New York Post in 2002 ran an article by Daniel Pipes and Lars Hedegaard, in which they forecasted accurately that the growing immigrant problem in Denmark would explode. In the article they reported: "Muslim immigrants constitute 5 percent of the population but consume upwards of 40 percent of the welfare spending." Muslims are only 4 percent of Denmark's 5.4 million people but make up a majority of the country's convicted rapists, an especially combustible issue given that practically all the female victims are non-Muslim.

Similar, if lesser, disproportions are found in other crimes."Over time, as Muslim immigrants increase in numbers, they wish less to mix with the indigenous population. A recent survey finds that only 5 percent of young Muslim immigrants would readily marry a Dane."

"Forced marriages - promising a newborn daughter in Denmark to a male cousin in the home country, then compelling her to marry him, sometimes on pain of death - are one problem"

"Muslim leaders openly declare their goal of introducing Islamic law once Denmark's Muslim population grows large enough – a not-that-remote prospect. If present trends persist, one sociologist estimates, every third inhabitant of Denmark in 40 years will be Muslim."

It is easy to understand why a growing number of Danes would feel that Muslim immigrants show little respect for Danish values and laws. An example is the phenomenon common to other European countries and the
U.S.: some Muslims in Denmark who opted to leave the Muslim faith have been murdered in the name of Islam, while others hide in fear for their lives.

Jews are also threatened and harassed openly by Muslim leaders in Denmark, a country where once Christian citizens worked to smuggle out nearly all of their 7,000 Jews by night to Sweden - before the Nazis could invade. I think of my Danish friend Elsa - who as a teenager had dreaded crossing the street to the bakery every morning under the eyes of occupying Nazi soldiers - and I wonder what she would say today.

In 2001, Denmark elected the most conservative government in some 70 years - one that had some decidedly non-generous ideas about liberal
unfettered immigration. Today Denmark has the strictest immigration
policies in Europe. (Its effort to protect itself has been met with accusations of "racism" by liberal media across Europe - even as other governments struggle to right the social problems wrought by years of too-lax immigration.) If you wish to become Danish, you must attend three years of language classes. You must pass a test on Denmark's history, culture, and a Danish language test. You must live in Denmark for 7 years before applying for citizenship. You must demonstrate intent to work, and have a job waiting. If you wish to bring a spouse into Denmark, you must both be over 24 years of age, and you won't find it so easy anymore to move your friends and family to Denmark with you.

You will not be allowed to build a mosque in Copenhagen. Although your children have a choice of some 30 Arabic culture and language schools in Denmark, they will be strongly encouraged to assimilate to Danish society in ways that past immigrants weren't.

In 2006, the Danish minister for employment, Claus Hjort Frederiksen, spoke publicly of the burden of Muslim immigrants on the Danish welfare system, and it was horrifying: the government's welfare committee had calculated that if immigration from Third World countries were blocked, 75 percent of the cuts needed to sustain the huge welfare system in coming decades would be unnecessary. In other words, the welfare system as it existed was being exploited by immigrants to the point of eventually bankrupting the government. "We are simply forced to adopt a new policy on immigration. The calculations of the welfare committee are terrifying and show how unsuccessful the integration of immigrants has been up to now," he said.

A large thorn in the side of Denmark's imams is the Minister of Immigration and Integration, Rikke Hvilshoj. She makes no bones about the new policy toward immigration, "The number of foreigners coming to the country makes a difference," Hvilshøj says, "There is an inverse correlation between how many come here and how well we can receive the foreigners that come." And on Muslim immigrants needing to demonstrate a willingness to blend in, "In my view, Denmark should be a country with room for different cultures and religions. Some values, however, are more important than others.

We refuse to question democracy, equal rights, and freedom of speech." Hvilshoj has paid a price for her show of backbone. Perhaps to test her resolve, the leading radical imam in Denmark, Ahmed Abdel Rahman Abu Laban, demanded that the government pay blood money to the family of a Muslim who was murdered in a suburb of Copenhagen, stating that the family's thirst for revenge could be thwarted for money. When Hvilshoj dismissed his demand, he argued that in Muslim culture the payment of retribution money was common, to which Hvilshoj replied that what is done in a Muslim country is not necessarily what is done in Denmark. The Muslim reply came soon after: her house was torched while she, her husband and children slept. All managed to escape unharmed, but she and her family were moved to a secret location and she and other ministers were assigned bodyguards for the first time - in a country where such murderous violence was once so scarce. Her government has slid to the RIGHT, and her borders have tightened.

Many believe that what happens in the next decade will determine whether Denmark survives as a bastion of good living, humane thinking and social responsibility, or whether it becomes a nation at civil war with supporters of Sharia law. And meanwhile, Americans clamor for stricter immigration policies, and demand an end to state welfare programs that allow many immigrants to live on the public dole. As we in America look at the enclaves of Muslims amongst us, and see those who enter our shores too easily, dare live on our taxes, yet refuse to embrace our culture, respect our traditions, participate in our legal system, obey our laws, speak our language, appreciate our history.

we would do well to look to Denmark, and say a prayer for her future and for our own.
 

LDB

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
An excellent article that points out well why we should lock our border and eject most of those who have come to this country in the past quarter century.

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arkjarhead

Veteran Expediter
I have a friend who came here as a child from China. He is just as much American as you and I. He considers himself to be an Amerinan. Not Chinese. Not Asian-American, but American. It really pizzes me off to see these immigrants come in and refuse to accept our way of life. If you ask if they can't learn our language the don't belong here.
I know many will call me a racist for what I'm about to say. When you mix races and different peoples probems always occur. When I was in high school our school consolidated with a smaller school. This school was all black. They come to our school which was about 80% white before they got there. Once they got there it was about 40% black and 60% white. The blacks decided to jump the whites outsde the cafteria after lunch one day. It was the hugest brawl I've ever seen. The local,county,state, and dot cops were called to the school. School ended up being let out for a week because there were so many fight the next day. It was crazy.
I know you may think that is off point, but if everything would have been left alone none of this would have happened. See the politicans want to force people to be around each other who have historiclly pretty much disliked each other from the begining. Christians and Muslims. Blacks and Whites. It just doesn't mix well on a large scale. When I was going thru the academy to become a correctional officer we had to take a race relations class. The only thing that the blacks and whites could agree on was a dislike for mexicans.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Another Danish article:

COPENHAGEN — Never has small seemed so big.

Tiny Denmark, population 5.5 million, now ranks as a global economic and social leader. The World Economic Forum recently rated it the third-best country for business on the planet (after the U.S. and Switzerland. Canada is 13th).

What makes the ranking doubly remarkable is Denmark's commitment to the welfare state. Taxes here are easily double those of Canada, with top rates as high as 59 per cent. But Danes appear to pay up with a minimum of griping. Perhaps that's because they get so much in return, including free daycare and post-secondary education, excellent public transit, and reliable unemployment insurance as well as health services.

And wandering the streets of the Danish capital, it's clear that the Danes have positioned themselves to take advantage of 21st-century global capitalism without sacrificing the qualities that make their country unique. Copenhagen may not be the most beautiful city in the world, but the mix of old and new, modest and monumental, big and small, makes it absolutely compelling.

This is partly because of the cyclists, riding in their own lanes, and actually signalling when they turn. It's also the Stroget, the famous pedestrian thoroughfare that winds from the main civic square through downtown. It's the wonderful relationship between the city and the water, which permeates the built environment in the manner of a northern Venice. It's also the contemporary architecture, especially residential, that proposes new forms of housing.

More than that, perhaps, it's the embrace of change. The Danes aren't exactly a wild and crazy bunch, but they decide to do something and do it. It's really that simple. A good example is the subway that Copenhagen decided to build in the 1990s. The first line opened in 2002 and since then new routes have been added regularly. Among other things, it gets you to the airport from downtown in less than 15 minutes.

When the city set out to pedestrianize the Stroget back in the 1970s, the merchants cried bloody murder. But civic officials persisted and now it's the premier shopping district in a community that loves consumerism every bit as much as do we North Americans.

And there's also an obviously vibrant café culture in Copenhagen, one that dates back less than 40 years. When it's cold outside, proprietors put blankets on the chairs for their customers' use.

When one thinks of Toronto's feeble attempts to close Kensington Market to cars and to increase bicycle lanes – let alone our ongoing struggle to expand or even adequately fund public transit – one cringes.

In many ways, the story of modern Denmark began in 1973, when the world was shaken by an oil crisis that saw the price of a barrel of oil rise from $2.59 (U.S.) in October of that year to $11.63 (U.S.) in January 1974. Once the panic – and the cost of oil – had subsided, much of the world, including Canada, went back to its old ways.

Not the Danes. Rattled by what had happened, and not having much in the way of natural resources, they took the lessons of '73 to heart and set out to wean themselves off oil.

Thirty-plus years later, they're decades ahead of the rest of us. For example, the bicycle system that covers Copenhagen was launched back in the '70s.

Now, 40 per cent of all journeys in the city are on bicycle.

By 2015, Copenhageners are hoping for 50 per cent. This commitment to cycling was demonstrated four years ago when the new national library opened. Planners decided it would have no parking for cars. Instead, they opted for several hundred bike parking spots.

Then there's the 180 per cent car registration tax levied on new vehicles, which along with a 25 per cent Value Added Tax has reduced traffic significantly. The car tax, introduced in the 1970s, deliberately made it difficult and expensive to own a car. That it has survived many changes in government testifies to the public support it enjoys.

More recently, the Danes embarked on an ambitious wind-turbine program that they expect will provide 30 per cent of the country's power within 10 to 20 years.

As for municipal finances, Danish cities are in much better shape than their Canadian counterparts. The reason is simple: Half of the total income tax Danes pay goes to their municipality. The rest goes to the regional and national governments.

The reasoning is that the municipality provides the vast bulk of the services that citizens expect, therefore, it should receive the bulk of tax revenues.

Only the Swedes pay higher taxes than the Danes. Yet the World Economic Forum ranks Denmark and Sweden third and fourth, respectively, in global competitiveness, behind only the U.S. and Switzerland.

A factor might be that Danish society is remarkably cohesive, even mono-cultural. Danes speak the same language and share a common history going back more than a thousand years.

On the other hand, unlike Canada, now a nation of immigrants, Denmark finds it harder to integrate outsiders. Recent immigration laws are considered the toughest in Europe.

Still, despite its ups and downs, the Danish welfare experiment has succeeded. At the very least, it should force us to rethink the all-too-familiar North American argument that economic prosperity and high taxes are inimical.

The Danes, and their Scandinavian neighbours, have proved that the two can co-exist not only peacefully but also profitably.

It's not that the Danish don't believe in the market – indeed, they want a bigger share of it – but they also understand that it alone cannot ensure quality of life.

The notion that Canadian-style civic impoverishment is a precondition to private wealth can no longer be taken seriously. You get what you pay for, of course, which is why the Danes have so much more.
 
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