RLENT
Veteran Expediter
Baghdad, Iraq ....
American flag lowered in presence of saudi flag
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tbubster
Seasoned Expediter
COLORADO
It is sad how some people have no problem with the disprect shown to OUR FLAG.First the principal says none of his staff did this,then he says it happend befor school opened up.So which is it?I dont know about colorado but anywhere I have ever lived a person can not just walk into a school and walk around doing what ever he/she wants to do.
Maybe I just have more respect for the flag then some.Maybe what the flag stands for means more to me then some.No other country in the world has a flag that stands for everything ours does.No other country in the world has a flag that is as recognizable as the american flag is.Even as hated as many claim we are, no other country in the world have millions of people wanting to come live under that flag.
The terrorist that planed 9/11 never thought that just hours after the attack on the twin towers that the AMERICAN FLAG would be raised at ground zero telling them and the rest of the world no matter what you do to us our flag and everything it stands for is still here.
paullud
Veteran Expediter
COLORADO
It is sad how some people have no problem with the disprect shown to OUR FLAG.First the principal says none of his staff did this,then he says it happend befor school opened up.So which is it?I dont know about colorado but anywhere I have ever lived a person can not just walk into a school and walk around doing what ever he/she wants to do.
Maybe I just have more respect for the flag then some.Maybe what the flag stands for means more to me then some.No other country in the world has a flag that stands for everything ours does.No other country in the world has a flag that is as recognizable as the american flag is.Even as hated as many claim we are, no other country in the world have millions of people wanting to come live under that flag.
The terrorist that planed 9/11 never thought that just hours after the attack on the twin towers that the AMERICAN FLAG would be raised at ground zero telling them and the rest of the world no matter what you do to us our flag and everything it stands for is still here.
I view this as someone made a dumb mistake, it was not done with evil intentions. Just look on the bright side, the entire school just learned a valuable lesson.
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Yeah. It's not like they were flying the flag upside down at a world series game.... Stuff happens
And, and the school made national headlines and the internet folks pushed it even more, wow,,what a legacy for all.
Camper
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I couldn't agree more. One of the reasons outrage regarding issues like this tends to be dismissed as being “fake” is that they've been marginalized. I attribute this phenomenon to this globalist apologetic/pacifist attitude that has permeated our culture for the past four decades or so. It seems national pride has falling by the wayside.
paullud
Veteran Expediter
I wouldn't say it is fake outrage, you guys can be mad about it if you want but it also doesn't mean the rest of us don't care about the country or the flag. This was a person that made a mistake, it isn't like the principal said to go pound sand when he found out. That is the reason people aren't outraged, it wasn't done with the intention to show allegiance to another country.
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Camper
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The issue is the assumption by some that it is fake outrage and the catylst behind such assumptions.
The catalyst might be the thread and "news" headline showing it to be a deliberate act when it's nowhere clear that it was.
Camper
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Be that as it may, the assertion that the rage was fake was an assumption.
Well, yeah, but the rage itself was based on an assumption, too. Which is the very reason those with knee-jerk reactions of rage based on limited information and assumptions over something that's not outrageous tend to get marginalized. The rage people feel may indeed be real, and it may be wrong to call it fake rage, but it's rage over something that's not real, nevertheless.
Those with genuine rage over this need to get their butts to Colorado and straighten those people out. Just the same as they need to pull over and confront the owners of those pathetic faded and/or tattered flags we see flying all over the place. Those are the flags that get me ticked off. And I've said things to some of those people. There's no excuse for flying a flag that's in tatters. None. That's not an innocent mistake, that's neglect. It's better to fly an empty flag pole than it is to fly a worn out flag.
Those with genuine rage over this need to get their butts to Colorado and straighten those people out. Just the same as they need to pull over and confront the owners of those pathetic faded and/or tattered flags we see flying all over the place. Those are the flags that get me ticked off. And I've said things to some of those people. There's no excuse for flying a flag that's in tatters. None. That's not an innocent mistake, that's neglect. It's better to fly an empty flag pole than it is to fly a worn out flag.
Camper
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To say that the rage is based on the assumption that the act in question was intentional is a blatant assumption, in of itself.
I don't think anyone believes there was any intentional act with respect to the positioning of the flag. To me, the issue is the lack of care and an evolution of our society which has made many blind to the significance of the oversight in question.
I don't think anyone believes there was any intentional act with respect to the positioning of the flag. To me, the issue is the lack of care and an evolution of our society which has made many blind to the significance of the oversight in question.
If no one believes it was intentional then why the thread and "news" headline?
Camper
Not a Member
The article is merely calling attention to the act with no opinion as to intent or lack thereof.
So the mention of it being "lowered in presence of Saudi flag" isn't opinion?
Camper
Not a Member
My point is it doesn't state intent.
Now, whether the wording of the title is written in way that's conducive to a particular slant is debatable.
I think it absolutely does state intent, and that's why it was written that way. Otherwise a story about a broken flag holder doesn't really fan the flames.
No need to state their opinion: both the decision to publish the photo and the caption written for it make their opinion crystal clear: this will generate outrage, which fuels sales.
Never mind whether the outrage is justified, just generate it to increase profit.
If you're old enough to remember when journalists and editors [not all, but many] had ethics, this kind of thing is outrageous in itself.
Ethic? These days? As you say, it is about sales, and if possible, degrading the Country.
witness23
Veteran Expediter
Thank you Turtle. I was going to say the same thing and show pictures of tattered flags to make the very point you just did. I couldn't agree more.