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I was looking at the Aerocell website and they list the Ford in either E350 or E450 with 176" wheelbase for 15'-17' bodies with the 6.0 diesel. If that is length behind the seats that could make a great van for both good cargo capacity as well as plenty of driver space. One could have 9' for cargo and another 7-8' for "home". Now I've got to track down the gvw rating for the E450.

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merkurfan

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A dual rear wheel E350 is 11,000 so if your going for under 10,000 your going to need a single rear wheel E350 or less.
 
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I ran into a Landstar driver who had a dual wheel ford with a deisel.
He said it was under 10,000 lbs. and didn't have to log. This was an aerocell. I am not sure as I am just taking his word for it.
The aero web site is www.unicell.com
I am not sure if the larger ones are the perfect setup, but they are an interesting concept.
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merkurfan

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It might have been re-rated to under 10,000 but it started off life over. The only exception would be a single wheel chassie with adapters to make it dual. My single wheel E350 cargo has a GVW of 9850. Just make sure what you buy is under 10,000 on the sticker in the door. That is what the DOT is going to go by. The vin also gives GVW and they might try to use that. It use to be much easier to get a truck re-rated to a lower rate. But now is more than just sticking a sticker in the door. They have to change the suspension or something to get it down to the rate you want it rated so I am told.
 
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My only quess based on what he said was the body was lighter because it was fiberglass. Deiseldoctor what do you think on weight with these?
Website doesn't say much on gvw
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merkurfan

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Did a little digging. Found 4 E450's.. All where just box trucks. 14,050 Lbs for a GVW, 2 had strokers the one had a V10 the other just said "gas".. That is Fords (saw it on the sticker in the last photo) rating. Anything less is someone fiddling with the numbers.
 
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I figured it would be around 14k gvw for an e450 dual wheel unit, which means logs, but I'm not sure but what it's worth logging. I've exchanged emails with a dealer who has one onsite with the 17' aerocell and it's got 6k load capacity. If it was set up to take 3 skids at up to 5k pounds it would open up a fairly good amount of work over a standard van without over stressing it. If the company leased to paid C rate for that weight in a van it would lead to some good paying runs. I don't mind logging really. I am too old and tired to drive farther than I can legally log between dot breaks anyway.

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That is where I seen a distinct advantage to it.
The drawback is that it is not dock high.
But I quess you could use load ramps
If you could run this at a "C" rate it would be a great option
Certainly something to consider
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dieseldoctor1

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I haven't really dug into this but it is my understanding that single rear wheel chassis are under 10,000 gvw and dual wheel chassis are over.Don't think the body would have any bearing on the rating other than Unicell would require a certain chassis rating for certain bodys. My Unicell with all my "junk" in it came in heavier than I planned. It is 7600 without load giving me a payload of 2400 to stay under 10,000. So far that hasn't cost me any loads. I really don't think the ability to haul extra weight will really help that much. It will be just like the extra height I can haul. Most of the time the customer just orders a van and when we get there the load is over 48". Then when dispatch trys to get them to pay extra they refuse and it is either haul for regular rate or loose a customer. I've probably hauled 6 over height loads in the last yr and got extra pay for 2.It's no big deal to me because the reason I got the Unicell with the extra height was for our comfort not so I could haul extra frieght. I just think if you are going to run a B unit run a B. If you want to haul C freight get a C unit. A B unit hauling C freight is a little boy trying to do a mans job and my experience it is asking for problems. Just my humble opinion based on many years of experience. Wish I was more help.
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I agree. a "B" should be a "B" and so on.
Wasn't sure if that large aerocell would be a "C"?
You would think the milage would be better than a stock straight truck?
Just a thought
Davekc
 
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I have to disagree. I see it more like having a pallet jack and furniture pads and other items. The fact the 17' Aerocell could scale 5k is not a boy trying to do a man's job it's another feature that sets it apart from run of the mill. Looking through my runs I find 3pc@5000 and 2pc@3493 along with a few others in the 2000-2600 pound range and another few below that. Certainly the 5000 and 3493 pound loads wouldn't have gone to a van but could have gone to the 17' Aerocell and presumably paid very well. I'm looking at options to be most flexible and generate the most revenue with the least expenses. I'm looking to work smart not be a boy doing a man's job.

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tazman

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I wanted to chime in here...thanks

As I sell these units......I find that we can register( here is Pa at least) the trucks at any GVW above the weight of the truck chassis and below the the GVWR rating on the MSO (Manufacturer Statement of Origin......

Many of our commercial parts trucks are ISUZU NPR's and we register them at 10,000 GVW even thought they are rated for 12K....

I regular down register E-450 cut van's rated at 14,050k GVW down to 12 ....




P.S. - FYI ....You can do a single rear wheel Aerocell on a GMC or CHEVY as well.........diesel Chevy/GM coming later this year
And E-450's only come in a V-10 or Powersroke 6.0
BTW...Issues with 5-speed Torqshift trans mated to 6.0 Strokes
We have several in the shop now.....
If anyone wants me to build a Unicell unit...I'll be happy to spec it for you.....




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Marty

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When it comes to a vehicles gvw DOT doesn't care what you register it at they go by the manufacturer's gvw which is on a sticker inside your door well. They can also lokk it up on their computer.
 
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I would want the full rating so I could scale the highest payload. I'm looking at it from the maximum opportunity standpoint and that's haul more weight.

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I think we will have some interesting news on this product by Expedite Expo time...

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>I think we will have some interesting news on this product
>by Expedite Expo time...
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>Lawrence,
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Ok, I've never thought anything but positively about this site until now but to say something like that when it's 4 months away.. that's playing dirty. It would be one thing if it were 4 days but that's just not right to throw that line out there 4 months ahead without filling us in. That's just not fair at all. x( :-(

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Lawrence

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Leo,

No hard feelings - If I were to say anything now it would be just "hear-say" and speculation. I would rather wait and be specific. Heck, I don't think they have any commitments to expediting as of yet. All we can do is wait and see...

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No, there weren't any. That was said almost totally facetiously although it is a tiny bit mean to throw something that good out there but keep it out of reach. It will be interesting to know what the scoop is.

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After more research I realize my Aerocell idea would need adjusting. Since it's 14k gvw it has to have a DOT approved sleeper. That would preclude 4 skids on the floor but it could still be set up for 3 on the floor at up to 5k pounds. Still sounds like an impressive package.

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