Big Truck ACCURATE EMPTY WEIGHT/TARE WEIGHT

sweetcdngirl

Seasoned Expediter
Driver
US Army
ACCURATE EMPTY WEIGHT/TARE WEIGHT

Definition

Tare weight /ˈtɛər/, sometimes called unladen weight, is the weight of an empty vehicle or container. By subtracting it from the gross weight, the weight of the goods carried may be determined.

What is an Empty Weight/Tare Weight? That is the total weight of your truck while empty of freight subtracted from your registration weight. What is your registration weight? Depends on truck class, axles and state. To determine this, look at your current valid vehicle registration. Majority of drivers really have no idea of what their true and accurate empty weight is. They mostly go by what the vehicle owner or company their truck is leased to, tells them. Follow this advice and you cannot go wrong.

Every truck will have a different empty weight for every solo driver and/or team that is in it. Determination of what that is has been the biggest misconception in the Expedite world. Most drivers have no clue what their accurate empty weight is, which has resulted in shock when they have been given a ticket for being over weight. And getting an overweight ticket is the responsibility of the driver, not the owner or the company that you drive for.

Every time you get into a new truck, you as the driver must make sure that you get “YOUR” accurate empty weight. Don’t go by what it says one the sticker on your door as that is the manufacturer’s weight after assembly with little to no fuel, no driver, no equipment and no possessions. Don’t go by previous drivers that were in the vehicle before you as your possessions and you don’t weigh the same. And last but not least don’t go by what the owner/company tell you what you can haul. Ultimately you, the driver, will be the one getting the ticket. You are the one who will get the points on your CSA score and have to pay the nice big ticket.

I will tell you how to get your accurate empty weight so there is no question on how much weight your truck can haul to keep you Legal.

Here is how to get an accurate “Empty Weight” for your truck.

• Throw out any former Cat Scale Weigh Ticket.
• Make sure all your possessions are inside the truck. For example, your clothes, your tools, cooking equipment, Electronics and any food you may buy.
• If you have a water tank fill it to capacity.
• Fill your def tank to capacity.
• Fill your fuel tanks to capacity.
• If you have any pet(s) in your vehicle make sure they are inside with you.
• Make sure any/all occupants are inside the truck. This includes the driver(s) and/or passenger(s).

Once you have met all these points, and only then you go ahead and WEIGH YOUR TRUCK!!! Take this weight and Minus this weight from your current vehicle registered weight and you will have your “Accurate Empty Weight”. And this new and accurate empty weight is what your truck can legally haul. Follow these steps every time you change trucks.

If you have a tag/drop/pusher axle, I would suggest that you weigh your truck with the axle up and then axle down. This will give you a better idea of when you can run with the axle up or down. That in itself is another subject that I will go into on another post.

Any time you add a substantial amount of additional personal stuff and/or equipment, it would be highly advised to redo this entire process.

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Author Shirley Elder Hooker
 

terryandrene

Veteran Expediter
Safety & Compliance
US Coast Guard
Good thread Shirley. One good point often overlooked is the tag axle up and down weights. As a sweet Canadian would know, a down tag is not allowed in some western Canada Provinces, unless you are driving a cement truck, so freight weight must be legal with tag raised.
 

BigStickJr

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I would also look at the door jamb.
If you have a 12,000 lb steer axle, it doesn’t matter what ply tires you put on, I believe you’re limited to 12,000 lbs.
Also, don’t exceed your rear axle rating.
If you have 12/34 you’re limited to 46k in MOST STATES even if you’re plated heavier.

Now go to your site and suggest that all your readers give EO a try.

And welcome to our site.,
 
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BigStickJr

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I know of a T600 reefer that went into Alberta empty with the lift axle up. They were over on the steer and instructed to return to the US.
Driver said, let me drop my axle.
Officer asked where’s your control ?
Driver said next to the seat.
Officer said that’s not allowed here. Turn around and leave EMPTY !
 

redytrk

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Be careful about that front axle weight when specing your truck. I found I was over when I drove away from the dealer. Fortunately it was never caught for the 10 years I drove it. Guess I didn't cross many scales in the states where they watch front axles really close.
 

terryandrene

Veteran Expediter
Safety & Compliance
US Coast Guard
The 12,000 # axle has been a popular item on many of the straight trucks that I inspected and more often or not, empty or loaded. Larger and larger sleepers and the popularity of less expensive single rear axle models led to the increasing weights on the steer axle. As we saw the entry of the more frugal and less experienced drivers. some of them saw that one way to save a few operating cost dollars was to buy a cheaper steer tire that didn't have the necessary weight rating to achieve the full weight potential of the 12,000-pound steer axle. Regardless of the axle weight rating, a driver must always take the safest and most economical approach and ensure that the tire weight rating equals or exceeds that of the axle. This is not only the safest way, it allows a driver to enjoy the dimensional capacity of the cargo box.
 
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redytrk

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Where you at peace after awhile or did you pucker up every time they weighed you ?
Definitely puckered. I had no intent to save money. Me and my dealer only had ignorance of the law. I don't recall FECC ever including this information in their requirements.
 

BigStickJr

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I talked to a guy that realized his new 12/21 Reefer had the capacity to haul 350 lbs !
He immediately went and added a tag axle.,
I would have worried about the FET. He probably knew nothing about it. Or the salesman said don’t worry you’ll never get caught.
 
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