Absolutely brilliant idea!

louixo

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
Here's a solution to all the controversy over full-body scanners at the airports:

All we need to do is develop a booth that you can step into that will not X-ray you, but will detonate any explosive device you may have hidden on or in your body. The explosion will be contained within the sealed booth.

This would be a win-win for everyone. There would be none of this crap about racial profiling, groping or impropriety, and the device would eliminate long and expensive trials.

This is so simple that it's brilliant. I can see it now: you're in the airport terminal and you hear a muffled explosion. Shortly thereafter an announcement comes over the PA system, "Attention, standby passengers! We now have a seat available on flight number...
 

LDB

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Although likely meant in jest and sure to cause apoplexy among liberal fools it is an excellent idea if it could possibly be implemented. It would give new meaning to cleanup on aisle 5.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Isn't that how Israel handles their baggage?

They put baggage into a big chamber, de-pressurize it and then pressurize it to see what goes off.

Reading about the TSA and how they yet stopped anyone, it seems we need to rethink their existence. Maybe putting the airlines in charge of it is the right thing to do.
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
Lou, I love the idea - but you know they [the bad guys] will find a way around it - maybe bringing the ingredients in unmixed?
Greg: agree about TSA, cos any agency that was screening the freakin pilots is ipso facto incompetent.:mad:
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Lou, I love the idea - but you know they [the bad guys] will find a way around it - maybe bringing the ingredients in unmixed?
Greg: agree about TSA, cos any agency that was screening the freakin pilots is ipso facto incompetent.:mad:

you saying the pilots should not have been screened? :eek:
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
you saying the pilots should not have been screened? :eek:
That's exactly what I'm saying - if they haven't been screened thoroughly before flying the first time [commercially], the airlines would be extremely negligent security wise, exposing themselves to a huge liability. From what I read, they've been overcompensating, at least since 9-11, so the pilots have no doubt been checked 6 ways from Sunday already.
If we can't trust the pilots, who's gonna buy a plane ticket?:confused:
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
OVM, it is rather stupid, repeat STUPID to screen the people who can crash the plane in the first place.

The problem isn't with a need to 'screen', it is the problem that the people in the government, all levels for that matter, still have this knee jerk reaction mentality coupled with the arrogance that we can figure it out ourselves and don't need to listen to anyone else for ideas. Outside of the problems within the intelligence communities and the lack of a uniformed need to enforce our laws and protect our country, we are still open to attack as we were back in 2001.

There are a number of other countries where they do not mess around and profile people, which works. Because of our collective guilt of the past which not one of us had anything to do with, we view profiling as a bad thing and made it impossible to use for what ever need we have - from public safety to national security. This is one of these "we have to grow up" things that show the world how immature we really are and the terrorist have gotten another victory by our stupid actions.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
so who's screening the screeners?..that would be the next stupid step in this fiasco.....These TSA people are just low paid C, S. with an attitude....they can bought off...

My thoughts are...it IS going to happen again...when ever the group wants and when....we will not be able to stop it...
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
so who's screening the screeners?..that would be the next stupid step in this fiasco.....These TSA people are just low paid C, S. with an attitude....they can bought off...
Screening [background & psyche tests] on pilots isn't done by the entry level TSA folks.

My thoughts are...it IS going to happen again...when ever the group wants and when....we will not be able to stop it...
I'm afraid that's right, cos they keep reacting to the last attempt, instead of anticipating the next one.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Nope that's not the right question.

The right one to ask is why are we even bothering with a combination of government agencies?

Safety has been a subject to the airlines industry forever but in the past 30 years it has been such a mess that we forgot what it was really like to actually travel without fear. It wasn't before than until someone with the bright idea sometimes in the 80's who said we needed this style of interrogation that we used to just board the plane and go. Before that, we had several hijackings, some political and we always had terrorist attacks of one form or another, most of which were undetected and homegrown. It was a slow response and we never had the data flow (who what where and when) that we could follow people which still leaves us with the fact that we were safer than we are now.
 

bobwg

Expert Expediter
Lets just do it like they do in Isreal PROFILE and screw those that dont like profiling
 

milpig

Expert Expediter
I am all for the profiling! I would even let them pat me down if I fit the profile. I am uncomfortable with the security just being a nonsense random dose of discomfort and embarrassment that has no rhyme or reason.

The military has used random searches at bases for years as a show of force not as a primary security plan. Seems to me that random searches are the main plan with the TSA. Kinda like, let's cross our fingers and hope we catch them or they are on a watchlist.
 
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