A Sign of Things To Come

Pilgrim

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News story from an e-mail I got yesterday:

SHELBYVILLE, Tenn. -- Some workers at a local plant will no longer to be able to take their Labor Day holiday because of religious reasons.
Workers at the Tyson Foods poultry processing plant in Shelbyville will no longer have a paid day off on Labor Day but will instead be granted the Muslim holiday Eid al-Fitr.
According to a news release from the Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Union, a new five-year contract at the plant included the change to accommodate Muslim workers at the plant.
Tyson's director of media relations Gary Mickelson said the contract includes eight paid holidays -- the same number as the old contract. Eid al-Fitr -- which falls on Oct. 1 this year -- marks the end of Ramadan, the Muslim holy month of fasting.
Union leaders said implementing the holiday was important for the nearly 700 Muslims, many of them Somalis, who work at the plant that employs a total of 1,200 people.
Nineteen-year plant veteran William Pentecost doesn’t agree with the decision.
"I don’t think it's right. I really don't think it's right," he said.
Tyson company spokeswoman Libby Lawson said by phone that, "This isn't a religious accommodation, this is a contractual agreement. The majority asked for it."
The change didn’t bother some workers. "I think it's fine. I don’t have any problem with it. There's a whole bunch of them here, so they've got to do something for them," said worker John Smith. "It shouldn't happen. I mean, I think, we're in America , you're in America , I think that they should go with our holidays," Pentecost said.

Channel 4's Cynthia Williams could not reach any of the plant’s Muslim workers, because Channel 4 News' crew was not permitted on the property. Former employee and Shelbyville resident Anthony Proctor said he thinks what's happening is wrong.

He said he helped build a special Muslim prayer room that's located inside the plant and that no other Tyson facility has been that accommodating for any other religion.
"If we want to go pray, we don’t have one for Christians," he said.

Tyson is headquartered in Arkansas .

Lawson said they consider religious accommodations on a case-by-case basis. She said that so far, no one has asked for any other type of religious prayer room.
No one at the Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Union’s regional office answered phone calls placed by Williams on Friday. A representative in New York said that no one there knew specifics about the new contract with the workers, but a person in research told Williams that holidays aren't usually replaced and are more likely to be added on.
The decision will only apply to workers at the plant who are union members. All other employees at the plant will still have their normal Labor Day holiday.

The complete story can be seen at the following link. It came out Aug. 1st in the Shelbyville Times-Gazette.

Tyson drops Labor Day holiday for Muslim Eid al-Fitr holiday - Topix

What concerns me is that the number of Muslims in a town the size of Shelbyville (pop. just over 19,000 located about 60 miles south of Nashville), and that they make up almost two-thirds of the work force at this plant. Wonder if they're all legal? And for all you conspiracy theorists, how many of them could be Al-Queda sleepers?
 

OntarioVanMan

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If it were voted on I don't have a problem with it....and they are accomodating the standard holiday...just means with a little sheduling finesse the plant won't be closed in September and will be more competitive...Only the traditionalists will have a problem with it..


A representative in New York said that no one there knew specifics about the new contract with the workers, but a person in research told Williams that holidays aren't usually replaced and are more likely to be added on.
The decision will only apply to workers at the plant who are union members. All other employees at the plant will still have their normal Labor Day holiday.
 

aristotle

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These unions are more insidious than we know. A dangerous precedent is being set in Shelbyville. Incrementally, over time, such concessions will become the norm. All in the name of diversity. I don't worship at the altar of diversity. While America is not monolithic, we must preserve common principles and beliefs.
Great Britain and France are in a cultural death sruggle with imported Muslims. Many parts of London resemble Islamabad. The Brits cower, quiver, and cave before these radicals. The demographics are against them. Western Europe may be lost in a generation without a shot fired. Just a few beheadings will suffice.
We don't have an easy future ahead of us. We are the last bastion of Western civilization.
 

OntarioVanMan

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Labor Day IS a Union holiday....Who cares? it's a celebration of unionism NOT solely an American Tradition based on values...Let them change it, they invented it....
 

OntarioVanMan

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Unions? Who do you think first started labor day? companys? the Government?

And at Tyson...just how many of the 700 are American citizens? Article doesn't say...people shouldn't jump to conclusions..and assume the worst..thats as bad as CNN and Fox...

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Labour Day is an annual holiday celebrated all over the world that resulted from efforts of the labour union movement, to celebrate the economic and social achievements of workers. The majority of countries celebrate Labour Day on May 1, and it is popularly known as May Day and International Workers' Day.

The celebration of Labour Day has its origins in the eight hour day movement, which advocated eight hours for work, eight hours for recreation, and eight hours for res
 
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aristotle

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You can safely assume the worst of radicalized zealots. Everywhere Islam has established a strong presence, their moderate leaders are replaced by more militant leaders. And it spirals from there. Nip it in the bud. Now.
 

Pilgrim

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I think the larger point is that Labor Day is an AMERICAN holiday, and they just replaced it to accomodate foreigners. What's next - Christmas or maybe July 4th? Suppose they're satisfied with just adding their "religious" holidays to ours - do you have any idea how much disruption that will cause for employers, especially if we have to be fair and start recognizing all the Mexican holidays as well? Of course this doesn't take into account the infiltration of their culture into ours, all in the name of multiculturalism and political correctness. The next logical step is for the Muslim population to become significant enough in small towns the size of Shelbyville, TN that they will be demanding only Sharia law apply to them. If they begin to comprise a large enough percentage of the voters in these small municipalities, there's no telling what changes they could make with elected officials and local laws. Just look at what they've done already with this particular union.
 

OntarioVanMan

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You can safely assume the worst of radicalized zealots. Everywhere Islam has established a strong presence, their moderate leaders are replaced by more militant leaders. And it spirals from there. Nip it in the bud. Now.

When the Italians flooded into this country shoulda threw the back into the ocean eh??? Even maybe the catholics...
We wouldn't have organized crime and No Al Copone or Gotti family....
Your paranoia is not unnoticed...nor your prejudice

Heck for that matter I should go back to Canada for speaking my mind and actually having an opinion that isn't traditional...
 

OntarioVanMan

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I think the larger point is that Labor Day is an AMERICAN holiday, and they just replaced it to accomodate foreigners. What's next - Christmas or maybe July 4th? Suppose they're satisfied with just adding their "religious" holidays to ours - do you have any idea how much disruption that will cause for employers, especially if we have to be fair and start recognizing all the Mexican holidays as well? Of course this doesn't take into account the infiltration of their culture into ours, all in the name of multiculturalism and political correctness. The next logical step is for the Muslim population to become significant enough in small towns the size of Shelbyville, TN that they will be demanding only Sharia law apply to them. If they begin to comprise a large enough percentage of the voters in these small municipalities, there's no telling what changes they could make with elected officials and local laws. Just look at what they've done already with this particular union.

NO it is NOT an American holiday... the US was one of the last countries in the world to legalize it...or we talkin seimantics here?
 

aristotle

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Almost all ethnic groups who came to America, came from a common heritage based on Judeo-Christian principles. Certainly, the Italians did. That is why they so easily assimilated into our social fabric. Radicals aren't interested in assimilation. Just domination.
 

OntarioVanMan

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Almost all ethnic groups who came to America, came from a common heritage based on Judeo-Christian principles. Certainly, the Italians did. That is why they so easily assimilated into our social fabric. Radicals aren't interested in assimilation. Just domination.

But your only assuming radical based on the behavior of a few...
you think that clerk at the days inn is a radical?

When I see slanted eyes I think communist.
 

Moot

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This country started on multiculturism...whats the point...?

The point is that what I posted is a link to a thread you started last December with a reply from me that is appropriate to this thread. Check it out!
 

OntarioVanMan

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The point is that what I posted is a link to a thread you started last December with a reply from me that is appropriate to this thread. Check it out!

Ok Moot...I see now...but I still stand by both....In the above article it states that the Original hoilday will stand and the new one will be an add on....they aren't eliminating anything and not changing anything...It works out great for the company because they won't lose a days production..You'd think with the crowd we have in here they'd be glad to dump such a socialistic traditon as Labour Day.
 

aristotle

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Ovm... you're deliberately missing the point. Radicalism is the core principle of their fundamentalist beliefs. It is the driving force among their spiritual leaders. Name-calling belittles your otherwise high octane intellect. Too bad you weren't a citizen of the USA in your early, formative years. The benefit of a good education would have prevented these divided loyalties.
 

Pilgrim

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NO it is NOT an American holiday... the US was one of the last countries in the world to legalize it...or we talkin seimantics here?

We may or may not be talking semantics, but let's not confuse Labor Day with May Day. Labor Day was first celebrated in New York City in 1882, and congress passed legislation making it a federal holiday in 1894. Labor Day has since been recognized as a day off for the average working man, and that weekend has for a very long time been the chance for the last family trip or family/neighborhood gathering of the summer. The celebration of Labor Day Weekend is an American institution, regardless of when other countries celebrate the labor movement.

You simply can't compare the tolerance of Islamic religious beliefs and Sharia law with the multicultural background of the European immigrants that were the early settlers of this country. They came here to be American citizens bound by its Constitution. Their laws were based on Judeo-Christian principles, their goal was to become part of the American culture and they learned to speak English, the common language. They believed in basic freedoms which included those of speech and religion. The Islamic religion and political philosophies are intertwined and are not compatible with the basic freedoms we take for granted. It's one thing to allow them to practice their religion here in this country, but it's quite another to allow them to impose their religious beliefs/practices and their politics on the rest of us. We should not allow their holidays to be recognized in a federal manner any more than we should accomodate their dress code in schools or make other special allowances for them. If they consider this to be "intolerant" let them go back to Saudi Arabia.
 

OntarioVanMan

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I looked back...name calling? Canada's education is equal to or better then here....

I am not missing the point...the rads can be singled out...your condemning a whole race based on the beliefs of the minority...
If we did that we'd have to toss out all the Catholics and Jews...They at one point or another were also considered radical...
 

OntarioVanMan

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Pilgrim..I do truly understand..BUT we are talking here is a Union agreement between 2 parties who have agreed to this...the issue stands on it's own merit...nothing is lost in this agreement...

And NO I don't want OUR traditional values replaced nor tampered with...I
 
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