A quick story

greg334

Veteran Expediter
[FONT=&quot]This week was a busy week but it was one where I stopped to help another ‘expediter’ out. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]I won’t name the company, it really has to do with the pom pom squad more than anything but here is what happened. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]I have some work that takes me to an odd place, multiple companies using the same docks. I pull in, get my stuff loaded and go into the shipping office to get everything written up. In the mean time here comes a really nice apartment on wheels pulling into the docks next to the office. The couple who own the truck come into the office, they are a retired couple who don’t look like they are happy. I stand there with my dirty shirt and pants and they stand on the other side of the office in their nice matching uniform and hats – hint my cloths are dirty because I have to crawl in between the stuff on my truck to get it all tied down. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]So I’m waiting and waiting and they go out and direct the fork lift drivers on how to load their truck. I’m watching, my shipping clerk is busy with her cell phone and I am getting interested in what they are doing. One of them, the lady of the team, comes into the office telling their clerk that they are given 10 pallets of stuff but can fit 8 on the truck and they have to call the company to find out what to do. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]I am standing there while she is trying to explain to the very impatient dispatcher and then to someone else and then someone else and she is left on hold. I look at the situation, they have the room to put shoring bars up, deck the bars and strap the two pallets on top. I am listening to her on the phone explaining it to another person, the husband comes in and tells her that they will have to take the load off the truck and she tears up as he is walking out the door. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]She hangs up the phone and then tells the clerk, who is not sympathetic at all, that the load has to come off. I step up and ask her if she has shoring bars and she says “yes we have 10 of them”, so I suggest using them to support the pallet and then they can take all 10. She darts out of the office to grab the forklift driver, a whole bunch of commotion is going on and they pull out bracing bars to use.

Cr*p… they had bracing bars, I went out on the dock and asked them if they had shoring bars, they thought the bracing bars were the same as shoring bars.
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[FONT=&quot]I explained the difference; they didn’t have them and looked like I just killed their cat, which by the way was in the cab. So I told them I would make them a deal, I will sell two shoring bars to them for what it costs me to replace them - $45 each and they will have the right stuff. I took the two off my truck and set it all up for them, helped them put the straps on them and by that time my paper work was almost finished. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]They did their thing with the paper work, they were all happy, I meet the cat and they are on their way to the west coast. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]This couple retired a few years back and was told all the fun they could have doing this work, so they bought a truck last year (I think). They planned on seeing the country but I thought it was de ju vu when she said all they have seen so far is truck stop parking lots, used car lots and a lot of bad roads. The company has been sort of good to them, they have given them enough work to keep the truck running but they don’t have a truck payment, they sold their house and cashed in some bonds to buy the truck, it is nice but too small a box. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]The lady mentioned that her fun ended a long time ago, they can’t get anything that they want out of the truck and she has had medical problems which makes it even harder for her and her husband to deal with and the company has told them too bad, complaining that they took too much time off when she went into the hospital. She was telling me that some of the places they have been don’t help with loading and unloading and at their age, it is hard to do the work that is needed. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]She was amazed at how the pallets were put in the truck; I told her I use my shoring bars all the time because I have a small truck. I was amazed that they didn’t even know how to load the truck, they wouldn’t always strap stuff in or know what strap to use. She mentioned that they had problems with the company when they asked for help; the company told them to find a mentor. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]I should be further amazed that this is not the first time I have talked to or helped others out like this. This is the second retired couple I have ran across in the past four months who were hurting like this and bought into the dream only to have it become a nightmare. This lady’s recommendations are simple, if you are retired, get an RV. [/FONT]
 

Yesteryear

Expert Expediter
We just had a similar issue. We got to the pick-up and found they had 12 pallets. Only 10 pallets fit on our truck. It was looking like we were going to lose the load. The weight was only 5000 pds but the issue was the number of pallets. Somehow, they did manage to get 11 pallets on and sent us on our way with the 11 pallets.

My question is. . . could you give a better description of 'shoring bars' , what they are for, how to use them and where to get them. Thanks we would appreciate the info. Sounds like something we should have on the truck? :eek:
 

bluejaybee

Veteran Expediter
I know what shoring bars are and understand how you are saying use them. What I don't know is how much weight do you feel comfortable putting on them?
 

bluejaybee

Veteran Expediter
This could possibly be the first thing he has dicussed that I even come close to understanding. If only he would have went in to more detail on this subject. He has at least two of us on the hook. Two on a hook is called a double, I think. Anyway, this is good worthwhile info here.
 

highway star

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
My question is. . . could you give a better description of 'shoring bars' , what they are for, how to use them and where to get them.

They're also referred to as load bars. They're the bars that snap into your e-track. I've also done what Greg's described. You use 2 of them to create a deck to put skids on.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
That's true Dave, I haven't seen any book describe the use of them but again many people don't get the different forms of decking are and how they can fill the box.

When you take the cargo securement classes, they teach you all kinds of things but this one I knew for a long time.

A shoring bar is a heavy duty aluminum bar that holds up to 2000 lbs. It is amazing what you can do with a sheet of ply wood and these bars. I hauled Nuke plant equipment from Virginia to the top of Ontario a few years back (it was a WG load by the way) and I had to put part of the load on three bars over the pallitized part of the load. If I didn't have them, I couldn't take the load.

I attached two files, one is a bracing bar (its the one with the handle), something that is used to brace the load and the other is the shoring bar which I use to shore up the load so if I have to stop suddenly I don't have it break loose and go through the front of the box.
 

bluejaybee

Veteran Expediter
I was pretty sure I knew what you were talking about. Just didn't know what weight range they could handle. I have to say, I never thought of doing this, but my e-track is pretty much just right to do it. In the past, I only remember one load that I had to turn down because it wouldn't fit. Plus, I have a 24 foot box. Now I can add another advantage to "my" bag of tricks.

Thanks gregg for the post.

This is good stuff here.

Yummy!
 

FIS53

Veteran Expediter
It is quite common from from what I've seen for not only expediters but regular deliver guys to not be equipped properly. I've seen loads of drivers without proper straps or other restraints. I've given guys straps to at least provide some sort of holding for skids so they don't fall over or come up front.

I haven't found anywhere that lists everything you should have or may require to secure a load or even info on proper loading. Years ago when you joined a transport company one of the old farts would watch you load and provide advice on distribution, securing and stacking of the pallets. Today with everyone being a broker this seems to have disappeared and newbies are more on their own.
Rob
 

Slo-Ride

Veteran Expediter
1 shifted load and they will learn what load bars are for (I hope)

I have had one shifted load and it wasnt fun,,had load bars in place but didnt use straps also,,,was a long slow ride into the docks.

Your a good man greg for helping that team out,,I only carry 3 of each (bars)and 8 straps & couldnt afford to give em up..
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
I carry 4 load bars, 8 straps [plus one with hooks for pulling pallets, replaced every year due to the degrading effect of grease - thanks to Greg for that info, too] and 4 blankets for wrapping. I've never lost a load due to lack of space, but I'd hate to - what size & thickness of plywood should be used?
PS 'Decking' is also what it's called when a bobtail is towing several more bobtails, secured on an angle. :)
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
I have both 3/4 and 1/2 inch plywood cut in half with handle holes cut in them. This is the old stuff, I have new stuff sitting down in the basement I have to put in the truck.

I took 1/2 this time, cut them in half, sanded the edges down and then sanded the surface quickly. I also cut handle holes in them on two ends that also serve to mount them behind my shelf unit in the front of the box (that swings out to get to them).

I have new straps on the list for the end of the summer, as Cheri mentioned. I had four stolen from my truck when I was picking up at one UAW place.

I also have to say that I have only had two loads on the truck that never got strapped in, both were big enough to use the shoring bars and tight enough that they were not going anywhere. I had dock people get mad at me for taking the time to strap things down but they don't pay for cargo claims, I do.
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
I had dock people get mad at me for taking the time to strap things down but they don't pay for cargo claims, I do.[/QUOTE]

I bet you don't - because there are no cargo claims, when the cargo is secure. I don't incur claims either, and those ignorant dock people can take a flying leap - I'm not leaving until I feel secure that the load is secure.
I'm assuming the plywood is a 4x8 sheet? :confused:
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Yep a 4X8 sheet cut in the middle so you have two 4X4 sheets. I have seen people use full sheets of plywood but I am not Atlas
 

Slo-Ride

Veteran Expediter
PS 'Decking' is also what it's called when a bobtail is towing several more bobtails, secured on an angle. :)
Never heard of it called decking,,,there is another term i hear on the cb but i cant pull it outta my head right now..below is what i found when i went looking..

(From the FARS Coding Manual): A vehicle towing another 'motor vehicle' is NOT considered to be a 'trailer' but is considered to be a 'towed vehicle'. An example would be a bobtail towing one or more other bobtails (Saddleback Mount). A vehicle towing another motor vehicle(s) is where the towed vehicle has two or more wheels on the ground. Towing does not apply to vehicles loaded on a flatbed trailer.
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
When I was learning to drive t/t, there were a handful of guys attending the same school to learn what they called 'decking'. It was pretty interesting to watch.
 

bluejaybee

Veteran Expediter
I am not sure I understand the plywood thing. Are you laying it on top of the shoring bars before you put your load on it? If so, is it really necessary? Or what are the advantages of it?
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
The use of the plywood is to provide a surface for the item, not all things will sit on the shoring bars well enough to strap it down. I use mine 1 every 5 times, mainly for a certain type of plastic container that has to sit flat.
 

FIS53

Veteran Expediter
I like the plywood or even 2x4s (used a few of those). Not all forklift drivers can stack skids one on top of another perfectly lined up. The wood gives a better area for sitting on. Now I utilize 4x4 pieces in the s/t but that's because of the type of product and I need the room between for the forks to lift goods not on skids. I've done more stacked loads in the last 6 months than I've done in over 6 yrs.
Rob
 
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