A One-Sided Arms Race

chefdennis

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You don't think our enemies don't see our president as weak on military and defense :

A One-Sided Arms Race

China’s military ambitions are boundless.

Jan 24, 2011, Vol. 16, No. 18
By DAN BLUMENTHAL and MIKE MAZZA
A One-Sided Arms Race | The Weekly Standard

Last week, Beijing decided that Defense Secretary Robert Gates’s fence-mending trip to China was the perfect time to unveil new military capabilities. In the lead-up to Gates’s trip, Admiral Robert Willard, the commander of U.S. Pacific forces, revealed that China’s “carrier killer” antiship ballistic missile is nearly ready for deployment. Then, just hours before Gates’s January 11 meeting with President Hu Jintao, the Chinese Air Force conducted a test flight of the J-20, a fighter jet that appears to have radar-evading stealth capabilities. Washington had an almost perfectly perverse answer, one symbolic of the shape of the emerging Sino-American rivalry: It announced another round of defense cuts. So there is a Sino-American military competition, but only China is competing.

The contours of the strategy driving China’s military buildup are clear enough to allow for a serious U.S. response. First, China is pursuing the ability to coerce and intimidate countries along what it calls the “first island chain.” This geographic area includes such stalwart U.S. allies and friends as Japan, South Korea, and Taiwan. Second, China is seeking more control over what it calls the “near seas,” which include the waters closest to its coasts—the Yellow, East China, and South China seas. Third, it is looking to project power into the Indian Ocean to protect the large volume of maritime trade that flows from the Persian Gulf to Shanghai.

China is developing a layered military capability, which will allow it to strike decisive blows against adversaries closer to the mainland and then employ harassing “guerrilla” air and sea tactics deeper in the Pacific to slow U.S. forces rushing to the region.

This strategy relies heavily on China’s advanced missile program. China’s missile force is not just large in number, but ever more technologically sophisticated. The Second Artillery is developing precision strike capabilities and missile-defense-evading technologies such as multiple independently targetable reentry vehicles (MIRVs). The missile force will be used to “kick down the door” during an attack to allow for China’s fourth-generation fighter-aircraft (and, in the coming years, fifth-generation fighters) to conduct mop-up operations against remaining targets in the first island chain and to establish air supremacy.

At the same time, China will interdict U.S. reinforcements by launching cruise and ballistic missiles against surface ships, jamming Aegis-equipped destroyers’ command and control capabilities, and launching torpedoes and cruise missiles from submarines. China’s robust mining capabilities provide yet another layer of defense in the “near seas.” The idea is to deliver a knockout punch quickly against Taiwan or Japan and then entangle the U.S. military in a web of defenses closer to the homeland.

Many U.S. analysts use the confusing term “anti-access” to describe -China’s strategy, which makes it sound purely defensive. Yes, China wants to deny U.S. access to Asian airspace and waters. But in doing so the Chinese military will itself gain the maneuver space to control the sea and air closer to the mainland and begin to project power farther from its shores.

Indeed, the Chinese military is looking to project power into the Indian Ocean. China is building a nuclear submarine force, much of it based on Hainan Island, which will allow for undetected movement into the Indian Ocean. China is also set to build aircraft carriers. It may be some time before China can perfect the use of flattops and naval-based carrier aviation, but in the meantime nuclear-powered submarines will at least provide China with retaliatory capabilities should its own shipping come under threat.

But while China’s strategy is beginning to take shape, a serious U.S. response is not on the horizon. Instead we are hollowing out our air, naval, and Marine forces at a time when we should be reinforcing and modernizing them, so as to reassure allies that we will maintain the capability to deter Chinese aggression and defeat Chinese forces should they attack. Washington needs to resist the temptation, made stronger by the Chinese ability to attack our forward deployed forces, to adopt an offshore defense strategy. Pulling the bulk of our forces back to Hawaii, Guam, or other Pacific islands would be a mistake. Such an approach would encourage a nuclear arms race in Asia and weaken our alliances. Our presence in the region is also the surest way to push our allies to bone up their own defenses and operate more closely together.

An offshore defense also rests on questionable operational assumptions. There is no way to project the kind of power we have historically needed in the region from offshore. We need forward bases and the intelligence collected from near-constant patrols of the air and waters around China to shape and influence the region. The forward force in Asia allowed us to project power onto the Asian continent when we fought in Korea and Vietnam and intervened to quiet -China’s intimidation of Taiwan.

With these principles in mind, the Pentagon could take the following steps to redress a balance of power now tilting toward Beijing:

Hardening, dispersal, and diversification of bases. Survivable bases will do much to negate China’s missile threat. Existing air and naval bases in Japan, Guam, and Korea should be hardened and dispersed. The secretaries of state and defense should also launch efforts to find more nations to host bases and naval facilities, as Singapore volunteered to do this past decade.

More stealthy fighters sold to and positioned in host nations. With more hardened bases, we should revive the F-22 line both to export to Japan, South Korea, and Australia and to add to our own aging fleet. There is no aircraft like the F-22 for air-to-air missions, and with China developing its own stealthy aircraft, the days of air-to-air combat are unfortunately not over. The Department of Defense should also commit to the “short takeoff and vertical landing” variant of the F-35. The F-35B, as it is known, which Secretary Gates recently put “on probation,” is exactly the plane most needed as a response to China’s missile force.

A stronger commitment to a long-range bomber. The next-generation bomber program should be accelerated and bought in small blocks as soon as possible. Such a bomber, conceived to have an unrefueled range of approximately 4,000 nautical miles and equipped with stealth technology, would be useful for reinforcing forward operating forces during a time of conflict and for striking targets (such as mobile missile assets) deep within Chinese territory.

More attack submarines and renewed emphases on antisub-marine warfare and offensive mining. Even as China retires antiquated boats, its submarine fleet has been growing. It now has more than 60 subs, all based in the Asia-Pacific region. The U.S. attack submarine program should be ramped up well beyond the current plans for a steady state of 48 boats. The Virginia-class submarines should become the workhorses of the Pacific, primed to conduct antisubmarine warfare, undersea surveillance, and undersea cruise missile launches. As a complement to attack submarines, we must restore our offensive mining capabilities to make Chinese submariners think twice before leaving port.

A regional security headquarters that can coordinate coalition operations. We need a forward-based regional headquarters that can prod allies to work together consistently. Many of our allies have very capable militaries, but they lack collective training, collective planning, and an intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance (ISR) system that only we can provide. A network of allies operating common, U.S.-produced ISR platforms and sharing intelligence through a regional headquarters will provide military operators with a common operating picture. The ability to watch China at all times and from all angles will immeasurably enhance deterrence.

Commitment to the Marine Corps. Recently announced cuts to the Marine Corps bode ill for maintaining a military edge over China. Though the Marines have been used for many critical missions since 9/11, they have historically played an integral role in the Asia-Pacific theater. They are able to conduct forced-entry operations, amphibious landings, and base seizures. They operate well in what are called “nonpermissive” environments. In most Asian conflict scenarios they would be called upon to be on the ground first.

There are, of course, other programs currently unfunded that would help keep the peace in Asia (e.g., directed energy for missile defense). Many once thought the Gates cuts to defense programs would free up resources for China-related defense investments. Instead, the cuts will weaken defense programs useful in the Pacific without adequate investment in other systems that are badly needed. China’s military modernization program is destabilizing the region. It’s time we woke up to that fact.
Dan Blumenthal is a resident fellow and Mike Mazza is a senior research associate at the American Enterprise Institute.
 

layoutshooter

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You don't REALLY think that this "Coward in Chief" would do ANYTHING to insure our military strength do you? This "bum of a president" is out to destroy our military, industrial base, Constitution AND country.

I'll tell you what, Barry and our congress, gives me "irritable bowel syndrome" :mad:
 

chefdennis

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LOL, then we have this from Russia. And yes both Russia and the US have the same option, but why do you think the Russians got it, because they knew the president was weak and has no gut for defense and his dislike of the military to begin with....

Russia nears arms pact approval, warns on pullout

By Steve Gutterman Steve Gutterman
Fri Jan 14, 8:56 am ET
Russia nears arms pact approval, warns on pullout - Yahoo! News

MOSCOW (Reuters) – Russia's parliament moved closer to approving a landmark arms reduction treaty with Washington Friday by amending domestic legislation to stress that Moscow could withdraw from the pact if it felt threatened by the West.

The amendments required for Russia to ratify the New START treaty do not change the pact itself and were introduced before the second of three ratification votes in the State Duma, the lower house of parliament.

The U.S. Senate included its own interpretations of the treaty -- the centrepiece of a "reset" that has improved long-strained relations between Moscow and Washington -- when it voted to ratify it last month.

New START will commit each side to ceilings of 1,550 warheads on deployed strategic missiles and bombers within seven years and establish verification rules to replace those that expired in 2009 with the 1991 START I treaty.

Analysts say rejection of the treaty by Russia's parliament, dominated by Prime Minister Vladimir Putin's ruling United Russia party, is out of the question. The amendments enabled Russia to underscore how it views the pact.

Duma international affairs committee chairman Konstantin Kosachyov said the amendments would "restore balance" after the U.S. Senate irked Russia with its interpretations of the treaty.

The amendments stipulate that Russia could withdraw if military deployments or even plans by the United States or NATO jeopardize its security.

They highlight lingering rifts over U.S. plans for a European anti-missile shield and Russian concerns over other weapons it fears the United States or NATO could deploy.

A missile system that weakens Russia's nuclear arsenal would "force us to use the article of the treaty that provides for the withdrawal of a state that feels violated in terms of security," Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov told the Duma, Interfax reported.

RIGHT TO WITHDRAW

The Duma's warnings of a possible withdrawal are largely a matter of emphasis, because the treaty itself includes broad language allowing either side to pull out if it decides its "supreme interests" are threatened.

Russia stressed its right to withdraw because of concerns over the U.S. anti-missile shield in a statement it adopted when Presidents Dmitry Medvedev and Barack Obama signed the treaty last April.

"The Russians are using their law on ratification to reflect their concerns, and it really is an answer to some of the language in the U.S. Senate ratification resolution," said Steven Pifer, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution.

The U.S. Senate stressed that a clause in the pact's preamble acknowledging an "interrelationship" between strategic offensive and defensive arms placed no legal constraint on U.S. missile defense plans.

The Duma ratification law says the points in the preamble are "indisputable" and must not be ignored.

"The most important thing is, the treaty is being ratified without a requirement for amendment," Pifer said.

But disputes over interpretation suggest the United States will have to work hard to keep a wary Russia satisfied, particularly if it is to secure further cuts.

In approving the treaty, the U.S. Senate ordered Obama to seek talks with Moscow within a year on cutting the former Cold War foes' arsenals of shorter-range tactical nuclear weapons, whose numbers are lopsided in Russia's favor.

Lavrov cast a shadow over those hopes by signaling for the second straight day that cuts beyond those to be made under New START cannot be expected in the near term.

Further negotiations should include a range of different weapons and "can be held after the START treaty is executed," Lavrov told lawmakers, according to Interfax.

The Duma is expected to give the treaty its final backing on January 25. Approval by the upper parliament house -- the last step before Russia and the United States exchange documents putting the pact into force -- could come this month.
(Editing by Tim Pearce)
 

layoutshooter

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Barry, the military genius that his is, sold out the farm on this treaty. This treaty alone is enough to try this BUM for treason!!
 

greg334

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Well I don't see the treason, can someone please explain from reading the treaty and the executive summary what are we giving away AND what is treason?

Also this started with the Bush Administration and Rice, knowing that the old treaty - more specifically the inspection of material and arms in the old treaty - was going to expire during the first term of the messiah.
 

layoutshooter

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Well I don't see the treason, can someone please explain from reading the treaty and the executive summary what are we giving away AND what is treason?

Also this started with the Bush Administration and Rice, knowing that the old treaty - more specifically the inspection of material and arms in the old treaty - was going to expire during the first term of the messiah.

Let's see. Barry put us into an inferior position. This treaty will keep us in an inferior position. Being in an inferior position threatens the safety and security of the Nation AND gives our enemy aid in their efforts to defeat us. That IS treason.

What are we giving away? Our nukes are OLD, out of date. The rockets for launch are old and out of date. Barry refuses to update. We don't even know if much of our systems even function anymore. Most, if not all of our systems, are older than the personnel tasking with using them.

Russia has already said that they are going to modernize their weapons. Numbers of warheads are NOT the entire equation. Out of date systems are useless compared to modern systems. As the Russians (Soviets) modernize, we become weaker. Even with "equal" numbers of warheads.
 

greg334

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Let's see. Barry put us into an inferior position. This treaty will keep us in an inferior position. Being in an inferior position threatens the safety and security of the Nation AND gives our enemy aid in their efforts to defeat us. That IS treason.

What are we giving away? Our nukes are OLD, out of date. The rockets for launch are old and out of date. Barry refuses to update. We don't even know if much of our systems even function anymore. Most, if not all of our systems, are older than the personnel tasking with using them.

Russia has already said that they are going to modernize their weapons. Numbers of warheads are NOT the entire equation. Out of date systems are useless compared to modern systems. As the Russians (Soviets) modernize, we become weaker. Even with "equal" numbers of warheads.

Still no answering my question.

I read the treaty, I saw the data on both sides but I don't see the give away nor I see treason. I also don't see the inferior position that this treaty puts us in.

What specifically is the problem?

Leadership void has been there since Nixon left office, Reagan was good but not good enough. We need someone to lead us, the weapons are not the issue as much as it is a lack of leadership problem with the Russians.
 

layoutshooter

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Still no answering my question.

I read the treaty, I saw the data on both sides but I don't see the give away nor I see treason. I also don't see the inferior position that this treaty puts us in.

What specifically is the problem?

Leadership void has been there since Nixon left office, Reagan was good but not good enough. We need someone to lead us, the weapons are not the issue as much as it is a lack of leadership problem with the Russians.


You believe what you want. I believe what I want. I have yet to read THIS treaty. I DID read the two that I worked on. I understand the process. I respectfully disagree with your position. There is nothing I can do to convince you and you cannot change my mind. That is that.
 

greg334

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That's a cop out Joe, I am asking what you specifically see in the treaty to change my mind.

It seems that a small portion of people are screaming about this treaty with not a shred of fact to back them up, and I feel it is because it came out of the Obama administration that they took it as something that they can twist the facts and make it look like he is the devil.
 

witness23

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He can't answer your question because he hasn't read the treaty. What I would like to know is, how does someone come to a conclusion if they haven't read the treaty? How do you know what the treaty does or does not do if you are not familiar with it?

Since you have admitted to not reading the treaty, how have you came to the the conlusion that the treaty is "treason" and put's the U.S. in a "inferior position"?
 

greg334

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See Witness, I'm not trying to put him on the spot, I'm trying to figure out where this stuff is.

Before I read the treaty and the congressional report, I read three different versions of a summary with comments made by professionals in the diplomatic world (don't ask me to cite it was a while ago) who were all over the map (far right, center and far left) and they all said the same thing - it is good for us as much as it is good for the world. BUT than I read the blogs and the spin/propaganda machine's take on this and it is opposite - screaming Obama this and Obama that.

SO I want to know what others see in it.
 

witness23

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See Witness, I'm not trying to put him on the spot, I'm trying to figure out where this stuff is.

Before I read the treaty and the congressional report, I read three different versions of a summary with comments made by professionals in the diplomatic world (don't ask me to cite it was a while ago) who were all over the map (far right, center and far left) and they all said the same thing - it is good for us as much as it is good for the world. BUT than I read the blogs and the spin/propaganda machine's take on this and it is opposite - screaming Obama this and Obama that.

SO I want to know what others see in it.

I hear ya greg.

I on the other hand, am putting him on the spot.

I have read the treaty. Here's a link: http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/140035.pdf

I've also listened and read stories of the opinions on both sides. Greg, do you know why those that oppose this treaty do not like it? Aand where they point to, to back up their fears?
 

greg334

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I've also listened and read stories of the opinions on both sides. Greg, do you know why those that oppose this treaty do not like it? Aand where they point to, to back up their fears?

I don't know, I guess it is the cynic in me that is getting tired of the knee jerk reaction of these propagandists who are twisting the information because there is one word used - Obama. Not that I agree with him, or support his policies but the opposite side of the political landscape did the same thing with Bush and anything that came from him.
 

witness23

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I don't know, I guess it is the cynic in me that is getting tired of the knee jerk reaction of these propagandists who are twisting the information because there is one word used - Obama. Not that I agree with him, or support his policies but the opposite side of the political landscape did the same thing with Bush and anything that came from him.

From chef's article:

The U.S. Senate stressed that a clause in the pact's preamble acknowledging an "interrelationship" between strategic offensive and defensive arms placed no legal constraint on U.S. missile defense plans.

The Duma ratification law says the points in the preamble are "indisputable" and must not be ignored.

The wording in the Preamble, which is not binding to the pact.
 

layoutshooter

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No Greg, not a cop out. Witness can put me on the spot all he likes, I don't really care.

I know the condition of our weapons. Old and out of date. I know the Soviets are going on a massive rebuilding/modernization program we are not. It is hardly about numbers of warheads. The number is one of the least important issues.

Survivibility is. Accuracy is. Knowing that they will operate is.

Our launch systems are old. Our nukes are old. Our heavy bombers are old. We have few newer bombers and NO land based mobiles. Our subs are getting old.

The only thing we had to overcome all these issues was large numbers of warheads. Sheer numbers would cover the failure of outdated systems.

By the way you, and I know as well, cannot see the entire treaty. There are "other" versions, the "classified" versions, that have the real "meat" that will drive this treaty.

I would have no problems with reduction of warheads/systems. I spent years working on treaties that did exactly that. One, the "INF" treaty, was a mistake. It was not a good treaty for the U.S. The other one I worked on "START" was a much better treaty for both sides.

Unless our warheads are modernized, our launch systems are modernized, we are at a major disadvantage and that is always dangerous.

Obama has openly stated that he is not going to modernize and the Soviets have openly stated that they are.
 

layoutshooter

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Ok Witness23, I went to your link. Nice PDF. Typical "sanitized" treaty, no real meat. No all that much different that START.

We gain nothing on this treaty and I still contend we are losing. Besides the condition of our weapons our "monitoring" capabilities are weaker than they were during the time when "START" was being written.


I am basing my beliefs on my experience in this field. What are you basing your beliefs on? I know better than to believe that the document posted is the "end all" document.

One BIG flaw that even show up in this sanitized treaty can be found in Section IV sub section 1A. Not verifiable without U.S. personnel on the ground at each base. This is the very problem with our "weaker" monitoring systems. We did not have enough systems when I was in and we have far FEWER now. We have fewer bases and fewer systems up.

By the way, I went to Section IV since that is the section/target set I worked on for "START" Which part of "START" did you work on?
 
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greg334

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OK I see that but the problem is simple to me, the deterrent that we have based on the old cold war mindset isn't as affective as say a new approach that is needed.

The problem isn't the treaty then, the age of the weapon isn't at issue, there is no upgrade restrictions within the treaty but rather the problems outside the treaty that are caused directly by a lack of leadership both at the top of the executive branch and in the state department which is what I agree with.

One of the issues I do see without the treaty is the case of moving nuke material from the dismantling of the nukes on Eastern European/Asian soil outside the control of any one country, like in the case of the disappearance of that material to make bombs. This is something that the Russians and others countries see as a big risk too. Remember that they are as much of a target as we are with extremist groups.
 

layoutshooter

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"The problem isn't the treaty then, the age of the weapon isn't at issue, there is no upgrade restrictions within the treaty but rather the problems outside the treaty that are caused directly by a lack of leadership both at the top of the executive branch and in the state department which is what I agree with."



The entire problem is due to lack of leadership. The aging weapons systems is due to lack of leadership. The weak monitoring is due to lack of leadership. Obama is the problem. The rest could be fixed, in time, if he had ANY understanding of the problem. Or if he does understand he is out to weaken the United States, either way, we are being put in a hole.
 

greg334

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But then what does all of that have to do with a treaty that extends the inspection programs and continues to force limitations on weapon counts?
 
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