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hedgehog

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This article appeared in a NE Ohio newspaper today (9-29-06)

There is much support for this project. The transportation costs would be reduced dramatically.

[[[ For Grand River Village Mayor Chris Conley, two years no longer seem too long to wait for answers when hundreds of millions of dollars are in the balance.

Conley is waiting for news that a proposal to bring an international ferry terminal to the village is either viable or not, and Conley believes his vigil is nearly over.

In fact, he was confident Thursday that his answers could come as early as today as he heads to Columbus to meet with Ohio Department of Development officials and others to discuss the proposal.

If successful, Conley expects state and federal officials will chip in $50 million in seed money to launch the project, which will eventually attract an additional $150 million to $250 million in private investment, he said.

"This is the largest public/private joint project that I know of anywhere, possibly in the world," he said.

The initial funds from the U.S. Transportation Commission and Ohio Department of Transportation would be used to build docking spaces for three ferries capable of transporting 60 semi-trailers each to a sister ferry terminal at Port Burwell, Ontario, directly across Lake Erie.

The terminals are centrally located between land bridges at Detroit/Windsor and Buffalo/Niagara so that goods heading from central Ohio or Ontario manufacturing plants across the border can be dropped at one terminal and picked up at the other without having been hauled by semi-truck on a 61/2-hour long drive.

Driverless trailers will be parked on a ferry and delivered to the other side in less than four hours, saving fuel and labor and cutting pollution, Conley said.

Lake County Engineer James Gills, one of the officials joining Conley in the meeting, and at least two of three Lake County commissioners are in Conley's corner. State Sen. Tim Grendell, R-Chester Township, provided a letter of support and state Rep. Tim Cassell, D-Madison Village, has offered support verbally, Conley said.

Cathy Haworth, executive director of Lake County Economic Development Center and another official expected to attend the meeting, said she thinks the proposed project will be good for Lake County.

"There is a rail spur and access to Route 44 there, there's a lot of infrastructure already in place. But there will be a lot more investment and infrastructure needed like a terminal.

"I think this makes sense to bring in a bit of tourism and a lot more commercial carriers," she said.

Conley said there is little short-distance shipping done in North America, but similar systems to this proposal are common in Europe and the idea could open up the continent to additional projects of this type.

His challenge today is to convince the state that the project is viable and worth the investment, he said. But he has also been very aware of how challenging this project may seem.

"It's so big it takes a while for people to become accustomed to it. But this will be direct access to Canada that Ohio doesn't have."
"We need the state to believe this is a viable project that will bring new jobs here. I'm very excited," he said.

This is the highest level of government we've met and I think one way or another this will break (today)." ]]]]]]

Be safe.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
This is a really dumb comment.

If crossing the border is so much of a big deal, why can't the Canadian and the US goverment come up with a good all year round safe solution like a Chunnel, tunnel under the lake - Lunnel. Stick the truck and driver on a train and ship it to the other side - drive on, drive off solution is possible.

If they can put a tunnel under the channel, they surly put on under the lake.
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
That idea will not work during many of the winters. Too much ice. Lake Eire can get very bad in winter storms too, the boats would most likely have to stay in port on the worst days. Yes, it is a lake, yes it is a short run. I know that. BUT, Lake Erie has a long history of eating boats of all shapes and sizes. I think the truck tunnel in Detroit is a better idea if they can come up with better terminals on both sides of the river. Layoutshooter
 

Prarysun

Seasoned Expediter
Don't know if you heard about this project in Rochester NY but it was a huge and extremely expensive FLOP! They renovated the entire inlet area and while I am sure the community loves the changes for the better we went in the hole for over 40 mil AFTER the ferry was sold to someone who is going to try it in the English channel....Ice is a factor, customs was at best a failure, it could accomodate up to 25 large trucks as I understand and that was no help. Just wasn't practical and the former mayor is very unpopular because of it. Maybe it would work for Lake Erie, and a shorter distance, who knows.
 

RobA

Veteran Expediter
Charter Member
This idea crops up every now and again.
The Rochester to Toronto crossing was sad. The Americans invested all kinds of taxpayer money in the scheme.
Then not that many people wanted to go to Rochester from Toronto.
Then HOMELAND SECURITY demanded that the ferry be escorted by the US Coast Guard in and out of port.
The customs facilities were never properly set up on the Canadian side; and on and on and on.

There would be far more things to do than the mayors of a couple of towns could ever arrange.

I hope the idea sinks into Lake Erie before someone invests even more tax dollars on an idea doomed to failure.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
The BIG whoptee much to do about nothing Mackanaw counterference for the South Eastern regional what ever that now includes Windsor for some reason had some of our politicions floated some idea about the ferrys and even the two new bridges but I think that it is another way to spend more of our tax money on things to make them look good. Our Sainted God Father, L Brooks Paterson is one who thought it was a good idea for the Ferrys but he also thinks there is a need to expand Cobo hall (with our tax money) while the best convention center location is sitting in pontiac (his county) with weeds grownig the in the parking lot.

A tunnel maybe one down river towards Monroe where there is a lot of land and easy access to I 75. get the guys who built the Chunnel to build it.
 
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