87 car pile up in Cincy and a 52 car pile up in Middletown

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
sudden whiteout condition.....never in all my years was there a "sudden" whiteout...a quick one yes but sudden?.....usually preceded by what looks like a wall of snow in front of you or across the fields it rolls.....there is a few seconds to take your foot off the gas pedal....but most people ignore the signs of pending doom...or just don't watch for them...blinders on...

In the day time I can normally have a bit of warning. There have been times at night when I have been caught unaware by a sudden white out. I have, on many occasions seen "instant fog". Totally clear and a second later, zero visibility. That is common on and near the Great Lakes.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
In the day time I can normally have a bit of warning. There have been times at night when I have been caught unaware by a sudden white out. I have, on many occasions seen "instant fog". Totally clear and a second later, zero visibility. That is common on and near the Great Lakes.

I've been thru some freaky weather as well in all my years....yes night time is the worst...pretty much the distance of your headlights....

even tho..in some of the whiteout conditions I've been in after a few seconds you lose your sense of direction, hard to know if you are up or down...kind of scary...best you can do is keep the wheel as straight as you think it is and coast thru it IF you can....and PRAY everyone else has slowed as well...
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I've been thru some freaky weather as well in all my years....yes night time is the worst...pretty much the distance of your headlights....

even tho..in some of the whiteout conditions I've been in after a few seconds you lose your sense of direction, hard to know if you are up or down...kind of scary...best you can do is keep the wheel as straight as you think it is and coast thru it IF you can....and PRAY everyone else has slowed as well...

Yeah, you can lose your sense of direction in a white out or heavy fog.

Tailgating is still the primary problem, so is not driving at speeds that conditions dictate.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Yeah, you can lose your sense of direction in a white out or heavy fog.

Tailgating is still the primary problem, so is not driving at speeds that conditions dictate.

being from the lakes like you I drove in lots of snow and blizzards...but the first time I hit a TRUE whiteout, NOT blizzard...I almost crapped my pants....LOL
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
being from the lakes like you I drove in lots of snow and blizzards...but the first time I hit a TRUE whiteout, NOT blizzard...I almost crapped my pants....LOL


I experienced the same thing when I got hit by that hail storm a couple of years ago. I did see it coming and managed to get the truck slowed down to about 10MPH before it hit.

The rain was so heavy I could not tell up from down. Then the hail hit. I somehow got the truck off to the shoulder but we took a real beating. I was scary.
 

jaminjim

Veteran Expediter
sudden whiteout condition.....never in all my years was there a "sudden" whiteout...a quick one yes but sudden?

sudden |ˈsədn|adjectiveoccurring or done quickly and unexpectedly or without warning : a sudden bright flash.


Reminds me of what 'is' is. :rolleyes:
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
sudden whiteout condition.....never in all my years was there a "sudden" whiteout...a quick one yes but sudden?.....usually preceded by what looks like a wall of snow in front of you or across the fields it rolls.....there is a few seconds to take your foot off the gas pedal....but most people ignore the signs of pending doom...or just don't watch for them...blinders on...

That's the down side of experience. You get to thinking that experience means more than it does. You extend your experience into knowledge and develop errant opinions and beliefs. In "all my years," I have experienced a sudden whiteout once. Actually it was a series of them in the same windy night.

It was instantaneous, total and happened without warning. Wind was blowing and heavy gusts were frequent. The roads were dry. The wind gusts would pick up snow from the flat fields and cause whiteouts. It was as if someone put newspaper over the windshield. You can simulate the experience by closing your eyes. It was that quick and that total.

Your natural instinct is to stop. What else can you do when you are literally blind? Fortunately, these conditions lasted for only a moment. They cleared as quickly as they started. When the first one cleared, we kept going since the roads were dry and the air was clear. After the second one happened a few minutes later, we started looking for a place to stop and park for the night. We found one but not before a third whiteout came and went.

Sudden whiteout conditions without warning? You bet they can happen. That's why it is good to study these kinds of accident reports. It gives you the chance to learn from other people's experiences and mentally prepare in case it happens to you.

In our case, it happened on a remote, two-lane highway in Canada. There was no traffic to worry about. We had the road to ourselves. Had it been in Ohio traffic or an Arizona dust storm, I don't know that a wreck could be avoided. The mental preparation in such a case would not be to react to a whiteout, it would be to react to a multiple vehicle accident.

That's the thing about expediting. For all of us, we are never more than the very next instant away from a catostraphoic event that can alter your life forever or even end it. The same could be said for any career field, but for expediters the exposure is higher because we spend so much time on the road.

Be safe.
 
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OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Maybe the difference between terminology and the users meaning (that is me) of "sudden"...My "whiteout" lasted about 5 minutes...long enough to lose all sense of direction or even worse yet the sense of movement....
 

tknight

Veteran Expediter
Speaking of texting an talking on the phone I still see many many truckers on the phone without a hands free or headset .Are there any numbers or stats on violations of drivers since this law went into effect ? It's alarming how many still do ithttp://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/thawolfman/handsfree.jpg
Get with it folks
 

osumike33

Seasoned Expediter
My 16 year old grandson got his license Tuesday in Cincy; and my 84 year old dad lives in Middletown, but thankfully neither involved....but if there is ever an accident in the Bob Evans parking lot in Middletown, I will definitely worry about my dad. When that many vehicles are involved, almost has to involve some kind of tailgaiting...no real hills or curves that part of 75.
 

T270_Dreamin

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
I set my cruise to 42 the other day in Benton Harbor and downshifted a gear, It's not worth wrecking your truck, like the last member said, shut down get a hotel and let the freight get there when it does. Take your time, any semi drivers slow down! We know your fuel is paid for but it's ten degrees out roads are slick.
 
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