74 yo woman freed after 32 years in jail

davekc

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It is a shame. All too often the politics of a prosecutors office win over sensible justice. Look for more cases as new forensics and DNA testing are overturning many convictions.
 

layoutshooter

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It is a shame. All too often the politics of a prosecutors office win over sensible justice. Look for more cases as new forensics and DNA testing are overturning many convictions.


Also fewer wrong convictions in the first place.
 

Ragman

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It is a shame. All too often the politics of a prosecutors office win over sensible justice. Look for more cases as new forensics and DNA testing are overturning many convictions.
And it can't happen fast enough for capital cases. Far too many on death row that shouldn't be there. IMHO, of course.
 

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And many that are on death row, for decades, have no reason what so ever to be breathing, Charles Manson for one. Believe it or not, many, if not most, of those on death row ARE guilty.
 

Ragman

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And many that are on death row, for decades, have no reason what so ever to be breathing, Charles Manson for one. Believe it or not, many, if not most, of those on death row ARE guilty.
All of this is true, nobody ever said different. However, to jail a person that did not do the crime is just wrong. IMHO
 

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All of this is true, nobody ever said different. However, to jail a person that did not do the crime is just wrong. IMHO

No one said otherwise. Modern forensics will be cutting down on the number of mistakes. Juries can only deal what what is presented to them. Still, far more get away with things than are wrongly convicted.
 

runrunner

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Still, far more get away with things than are wrongly convicted.

That's right,I can think of one recent case where the guilty walked.
 

layoutshooter

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I would rather see the guilty walk than put an innocent man in jail.

Tell that to all those who are being killed by those who walk away. Having their homes invaded by them. Having their cars hijaked.

FAR more innocent people are killed by crap people than there are innocent people jailed.

Bottom line is, crime is very much out of control. The police cannot stop it. The court are not doing their jobs. In places like Detroit criminals own much of the city.

The lack of law and order is leading to people standing up and fighting back. Why? They have to so they can survive. The "law" is not protecting the citizens. It can't, or won't. It is past "voting to change it" .

Detroit homeowner fatally shoots 2 suspected home invaders | The Detroit News
 

cheri1122

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Tell that to all those who are being killed by those who walk away.

Any suggestions on communicating with dead people? Because I would totally tell them the same thing Ragman would, if it were possible.
Life is not fair, good people get hurt and killed, bad people get away with it. We [including law enforcement] do the best we can, but it will never stop, short of living in a police state. IMO, that would be even worse.
 

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There is a problem and there are multiple answers. The problem is that the answers are not liked.

The fact is that, like it or not, it is the responsibility of each individual to protect what is rightfully his. Government has proven, though out history, it cannot, and often will not, protect the People from those who would do harm. It is often that case that it is government that would seek to harm the People.

The idea that we will never put an innocent person in jail is very warm and fuzzy, and very impossible. Just as it is impossible to jail every person that commits a crime.

Part of the problem here it that we have far too many laws. This problem will increase as government continues to become more and more oppressive.

Things will not really change, and "street justice" will increase, until each individual is held 100% responsible for his or her life. That is not something that is likely to happen in an atmosphere where government is doing everything to circumvent individual rights and responsibilities and replace it with their authority. That is a recipe for disaster.
 

Tennesseahawk

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No one said otherwise. Modern forensics will be cutting down on the number of mistakes. Juries can only deal what what is presented to them. Still, far more get away with things than are wrongly convicted.

Still, I wonder how many were convicted cause their eyes were too close together, regardless of any lack of evidence against them. People are people, afterall.
 

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Still, I wonder how many were convicted cause their eyes were too close together, regardless of any lack of evidence against them. People are people, afterall.

That will always happen, just as some are not convicted for similar reasons.

The idea that we will NEVER convict an innocent person or NEVER not convict one is silly. While we SHOULD strive for a 100% record on both counts it is never going to happen. We can only do our best. We still have to be "hard" on real crime, and criminals, while at the same time getting rid of bogus laws.
 

cheri1122

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We have to agree it is a serious problem, which it appears has no answer.

The serious problem is lack of sufficient resources [in this case, people to take calls], at least some of which could be mismanagement of funds, and the use of 911 by many people for non emergency calls.
Pretty funny, though: the family only heard their dog barking, and assume it scared the would- be burglar away - there's no proof [or evidence, either] that there actually was any burglar. That's some pretty thin justification for being fed up, IMO.
The people of New Orleans ought to be asking some pointed questions about income and expenses, and what the tax revenues are being used for, though.
 
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