55% increase in costs, thanks Obamacare

coalminer

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Retired Expediter
You do understand that socialism is not communism right? There is a difference, and from your posts you seem to be way too intelligent to not know the difference.
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
And now I am going to bed. I am getting up in a few hours to hunt duck on Lake Erie. I am going to use a semi-auto shotgun which the likes those scumbags like Obama, Holder, and Clinton want to steal from me and restrict my freedom from using to provide food for my family in the way in which I see fit. Not to mention that they want to take them to insure their evil reign as is the norm for all Marxists and socialists.
 

layoutshooter

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Retired Expediter
You do understand that socialism is not communism right? There is a difference, and from your posts you seem to be way too intelligent to not know the difference.

I am fully aware of the pretend differences and how they are used to dupe those who do not. I KNOW the evil. Man is either free, or dead. Take your pick. I have an intense hatred of anything that usurps my freedom to live as my soul craves. EVERYTHING socialist fascist, and communist, denies my freedom.

Only I can decide what is right for me and mine. NO form of government is capable of that. Government is inherently evil. The more restrictive, like socialism, communism and fascism, the more evil it is.
 

cheri1122

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You do understand that socialism is not communism right? There is a difference, and from your posts you seem to be way too intelligent to not know the difference.

Post 44 is typical, and I see nothing intelligent in the thinking that government is inherently evil.
 

cheri1122

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That the government hasn't provided proper health care to the small fraction of the 13% of citizens who are veterans is fact - that they can't is not. Intelligence is knowing the difference.
 

LDB

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That they don't is absolute fact. That they can't is highly likely or we wouldn't have decades of that evidence. That government doesn't care is also evident so common sense suggests they won't care in the bigger picture either. In any event, it isn't a function of government to be in the health care business.
 

cheri1122

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That they don't is absolute fact. That they can't is highly likely or we wouldn't have decades of that evidence. That government doesn't care is also evident so common sense suggests they won't care in the bigger picture either. In any event, it isn't a function of government to be in the health care business.

The OP said "PROVEN beyond a shadow of a doubt", and that is simply not true. Nor is "highly likely" true, based on the fact that they haven't yet - things change. They change faster when there are agents nudging them along, and the vets just haven't been very vociferous about the healthcare shortcomings. Possibly, when the entire population is involved, there will be a lot more pressure to get it right.
I hope so, because it matters.
 

LDB

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Decades of VA healthcare should be more than enough evidence for any common sense evaluation. It is highly likely they cannot provide adequate healthcare as a government function or they would have long before now.
 

mjmsprt40

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That the government hasn't provided proper health care to the small fraction of the 13% of citizens who are veterans is fact - that they can't is not. Intelligence is knowing the difference.

Wild guess here, but if the government failed so miserably to provide proper care for a tiny fraction-- it's a reasonably safe bet they're not going to be either interested or able to provide care for everybody.

Intelligence is knowing NOT to give a huge job to a person-- or organization-- or government that has already failed at a much smaller part of the task.
 

cheri1122

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You may be correct, and the government will muck it up bigtime. I certainly didn't say they won't - I said that saying it's "highly likely" based on the VA is not a factual representation. They have done a much better job with Medicare, because the seniors demand it. Hopefully, when the entire population is involved, they'll do a better job there too.
If not, I say we blame Mitt Romney.
 

cheri1122

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I just get tired of reading "the government is inherently evil" posts, over & over & over.
Either the OP doesn't know what 'inherently' means, or he is in favor of anarchy.
 

cheri1122

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Also get sick of reading that Obama is "Marxist" and/or Muslim - he is lots of things, but neither of those. It's hard to credit people with intelligence when they keep repeating such nonsense, just to show their disdain. There's no shortage of genuine reasons to complain, making them up is just stupid.
 

interstategar

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I love Obama care! I qualified for medicaid, thanks for all my deductions in the trucking industry. Now instead of paying before Obamacare $800/mo. I pay zero, no co-pay, free dental-no co-pay. If you own 1 truck, deduct by the mile instead of actual, and it must start the first year you put the truck in service.
 

davekc

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The whole thing is a train wreck. He just doesn't know it yet. "If it seems too good to be true, it probably is". The reality of healthcare will (already started) will be a two tier program. The ones that pay, and the ones who get it for free. Guess which one the good doctors will be providing care for? Follow the money.
 
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