rfrogger120
Expert Expediter
Is there any expediter driving a van for a fleet owner that made $30 grand last year after taxes? yes/no
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letzrockexpress
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Without experience with a given carrier, not likely.
If you can find an owner with a van that consistently grosses $100,000 and the owner pays all truck expenses and gives you a typical 40%, you would gross $40,000. We wouldn't want to guess your tax situation nor your requirements for personal road expenses above and beyond your off road personal expenses.
Once again, not likely, but I could be proven wrong.
If you can find an owner with a van that consistently grosses $100,000 and the owner pays all truck expenses and gives you a typical 40%, you would gross $40,000. We wouldn't want to guess your tax situation nor your requirements for personal road expenses above and beyond your off road personal expenses.
Once again, not likely, but I could be proven wrong.
rfrogger120
Expert Expediter
Terry, I know you've been at this awhile, if you had to do this over again and started off with a fleet owner first, would you take the 60% or take the 40%? and why?
I've even been told of some 70/30 splits. Thats you paying the fuel.
Generally speaking, If I was an owner, I'd want the driver to pay all the fuel and oil. If I was the driver, I'd want the owner to pay.
Expectations of the driver and of the owner are an important consideration. If the driver plans to go home every weekend or some other lesser unreasonable period, who should pay the fuel bill? If the driver proves to have a lead foot by poorer that past milage who should absorb the extra costs?
Does the carrier pay FSC on all loads so the evective cost of fuel is about $1.25. You might want to take the 60% if you get all of the FSC, not just a percentage of it. A close look at your driving habits might let you believe you could save a little here and there and be better off getting the larger percentage.
You might consider a combo deal where the owner pays all fuel costs except unusual personal use. Usual might be going home from anywhere if you've been on the road and available for XX days. Unusual might be deadheading home a long distance after only 5 days on the road.
At today's fuel costs and tomorrows greater fuel cost, I'd want the owner to pay for fuel.
Expectations of the driver and of the owner are an important consideration. If the driver plans to go home every weekend or some other lesser unreasonable period, who should pay the fuel bill? If the driver proves to have a lead foot by poorer that past milage who should absorb the extra costs?
Does the carrier pay FSC on all loads so the evective cost of fuel is about $1.25. You might want to take the 60% if you get all of the FSC, not just a percentage of it. A close look at your driving habits might let you believe you could save a little here and there and be better off getting the larger percentage.
You might consider a combo deal where the owner pays all fuel costs except unusual personal use. Usual might be going home from anywhere if you've been on the road and available for XX days. Unusual might be deadheading home a long distance after only 5 days on the road.
At today's fuel costs and tomorrows greater fuel cost, I'd want the owner to pay for fuel.
Terry & Renee;
If one did the Combination that you talked about , how would you decifer between what is used mileage and un-used ( Meaning Deadheading home or personal ) ?
I quess keep a personal mileage log.. Then total honesty comes into effect !
Does anyone use that way of doing things ?
Since I am totally new to this, have ben doing a lot of thinking about this and which way to go.I will be driving a Sprinter !
Of course, we all need to think of the bottom line, making $$$ !
This is a very good topic, thanks to all !
rmctt2
If one did the Combination that you talked about , how would you decifer between what is used mileage and un-used ( Meaning Deadheading home or personal ) ?
I quess keep a personal mileage log.. Then total honesty comes into effect !
Does anyone use that way of doing things ?
Since I am totally new to this, have ben doing a lot of thinking about this and which way to go.I will be driving a Sprinter !
Of course, we all need to think of the bottom line, making $$$ !
This is a very good topic, thanks to all !
rmctt2
rfrogger120
Expert Expediter
Terry, when you mean "fuel and oil" you mean oil changes?
rfrogger120
Expert Expediter
RMCTT, the owner will pay for the milage that it takes to deliver form point A to point B. if a load says its 750 miles then thats all the owner pay. You start paying fuel at 751 miles
A slip of the lip; I didn't mean to write in oil changes. Also note that I said unusual not un-used.
I don't agree with the 750 mile example. If the owner is paying the fuel, that should include all necessary and reasonable deadhead. Where I think a driver should pay for fuel, during an owner paying fuel relationship, for unusual deadhead. That might be when a driver wants to go home a long distance from a good freight area. Here's an example: The driver is in Chicago on Thursday and decides to go home to Atlanta, GA because his wife is going to get pregnant and he wants to be there when it happens. That would be an unreasonable fuel expense that the driver should not expect the owner to pay.
I don't agree with the 750 mile example. If the owner is paying the fuel, that should include all necessary and reasonable deadhead. Where I think a driver should pay for fuel, during an owner paying fuel relationship, for unusual deadhead. That might be when a driver wants to go home a long distance from a good freight area. Here's an example: The driver is in Chicago on Thursday and decides to go home to Atlanta, GA because his wife is going to get pregnant and he wants to be there when it happens. That would be an unreasonable fuel expense that the driver should not expect the owner to pay.
rfrogger120
Expert Expediter
Terry, you had me laughing--wife is going to get pregnant and he wants to be there when it happens. GEE I hope he's there and not anyone else when it happens.
