1 of Granholm last acts

[Slo-Ride]

Granholm signs Mich. moose hunting law | WOOD TV8

Article states herd is app. 500 strong.
With those numbers Im not sure I agree with this yet..

 

[greg334]

Great, now we will have a bunch of idiots running around chasing moose in order to kill them.

I think she also pardon a bunch of murders.

 

[Slo-Ride]

I'm thinking anyone dumb enough to chase a Moose wont have much luck harvesting 1 anyways
Now to hunt 1 maybe different story..

As far as pardons I haven't heard anything on that,,But Heck why not,,she properly sees em as productive ppl to society after all they should have been thru rehab.

 

[layoutshooter]

Great, now we will have a bunch of idiots running around chasing moose in order to kill them.

I think she also pardon a bunch of murders.

Idiots running around? Must be either City Slickers or politicians. (Often the same people are inflicted with both diseases) NO REAL hunter acts like that. Of course hunters will kill some of the moose. They kick FAR too hard when you try to eat them alive and the hair tastes nasty anyway.

She did NOT pardon a murderer, she commuted a sentence. He was not the person who did the stabbing, he drove the get away car in a bank robbery. The crime took place over 20 years ago. The only other thing about that I know for sure is that the guy was 20 when he was convicted. No pardon.

 

[greg334]

The "hunters" I have had to deal with lately are idiots. I think we need to have hunter safety classes every year for people who can't see, can't hear and especially older than 65.

OK commuting his sentence but I stand with the victims family on this one, he was convicted and should spend his sentence behind bars. There was no reason for it as far as I can see. 20 or 50, he is an adult, not a stupid kid of 14.

 

[Turtle]

OK commuting his sentence but I stand with the victims family on this one, he was convicted and should spend his sentence behind bars. There was no reason for it as far as I can see. 20 or 50, he is an adult, not a stupid kid of 14.

Granholm reverses clemency decision.

 

[Poorboy]

Granholm reverses clemency decision.

Good for her,she finally did something right!

 

[greg334]

Yes it only took her 8 years to do one thing right.

 

[layoutshooter]

"The "hunters" I have had to deal with lately are idiots. I think we need to have hunter safety classes every year for people who can't see, can't hear and especially older than 65."

Let's see. I am 60. My Dad is 88, his hunting partner is 87. Not being able to hear is NOT a safety issue. Sight is, Michigan does have a law that allows certain legally blind hunters to hunt. It defines what is allowed and not. VERY safe.

I don't know where in Michigan you hunt but hunting accidents, all types, are at all times low. The worst year in U.S. history was, if I remember correctly, was 1939.

Using any statistics out there you are FAR safer in Michigan's woods, fields and waters than you are driving your truck or walking down the street that you live on.

 

[layoutshooter]

A good source of facts on this subjects. The International Hunter Education Association.

If you scroll through the years and stats I think that you will find that your OVER 65 stuff does not hold water. That the stats don't bear it out. The last year compiled to date is 2007.



Incident Reports - IHEA

 

[layoutshooter]

From the National Safety Council:


"A]ccidental deaths involving firearms comprise less than 1 percent of accidental deaths or about 700 deaths a year nationwide in 2004, the most recent year studied. [NSSF] cites a recent report from the National Safety Council, a nonprofit public service organization, showing an amazing 48 percent decline in accidental firearm-related deaths in the past decade. According to the National Safety Council, which keeps tabs on accidents in its “Injury Facts 2005-2006” publication, no other category of accidental death has declined as much in recent years."

more:


Some statistics from the National Safety Council: The average Americans chances of dying:

In any accident 1 in 23
By a vehicle while walking 1 in 612
Fall from bed, chair, furntiture 1 in 4745
Firearm accident 1 in 4888

The NSC site is hard to use, clunky, but there is a lot of good info on it. The 700 number quoted above is NOT ONLY hunting accidents. It includes ALL firearms deaths. Hunting accidents and deaths are a tiny fraction of that number.

 

[layoutshooter]

More:


Hunting is the safest sport?

March 24, 2009 03:29 PM EDT (Updated: March 24, 2009 03:32 PM EDT)


It's true. According to the National Safety Council, Injury Facts 2008 edition, hunting is by far the safest sport. Figures show that while football players suffer 2585 injuries per 100,000 participants, baseball players suffer 1122 injuries per 100,000, and even billiards players suffer 15 injuries per 100,000 participants, the incidence of injuries suffered during hunting activities was only 2 per 100,000


Hunting is the safest sport? | Gather

 

[greg334]

Joe,
I don't really care.

Nothing against hunting, I am against the people who think it is a God given right and don't use good judgment to begin with. You could be the greatest hunter in the world but what sets you apart from all the rest isn't your skills but when you know your limitations - a lot of people are clueless what their limitations are to begin with, let alone understanding that the actual hunt isn't as important.

 

[layoutshooter]

Joe,
I don't really care.

Nothing against hunting, I am against the people who think it is a God given right and don't use good judgment to begin with. You could be the greatest hunter in the world but what sets you apart from all the rest isn't your skills but when you know your limitations - a lot of people are clueless what their limitations are to begin with, let alone understanding that the actual hunt isn't as important.

I know what you are saying, and I agree. I also know that you are talking about the rare rather than the norm. The statistics bear that out. Your argument is the same for ANYTHING in life. Driving, hunting, or billiards. (billiards has a higher accident rate per 100,000 than hunting does)

Skills ARE important, so is knowing your limitations. Sorta like drivers who drive non stop for 20 hours in vans because the are not logging. Same thing. Again, not the norm, the exception.

The fact is hunting IS the SAFEST participation sport in the United States and has been so for more than 40 years.

I understand that individual experiences can not bear that out. One should ALWAYS try to look at the bigger picture. A bad experience can color something wrong and the experience is likely never to reoccur.