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  1. Turtle

    The Trump Card...

    Breathtakingly bad analogy.
  2. Turtle

    The Trump Card...

    I doubt it. The vaccine is pretty specific, which doesn't usually translate directly to the general. But some, I suppose. It's a major issue, but only for a really, really small percentage of the population. All vaccines including mumps, measles, all those were given as kids, tetanus, annual...
  3. Turtle

    The Trump Card...

    The first one wiped out the weak and the old, who were not vaccinated. The second one is doing the exact same thing. The second one is not more contagious than the first one, it's exactly the same as the first one and every other coronavirus. The second one is not less deadly than the first...
  4. Turtle

    The Trump Card...

    Neither are hyperbole and trolling.
  5. Turtle

    The Trump Card...

    You mean when Secret Service agents moved him into the bunker because protesters were trying to break down the fence and enter the White House grounds? Characterizing that as "hiding down in the bunker" may very well be the most blatantly dishonest thing I've read on here in a while. It's so...
  6. Turtle

    The Trump Card...

    That's really not evidence of cheating, but it's certainly an odd enough occurrence to warrant a closer look than the Dems are willing to allow. And the more the Dems don't want it to be looked at, the more it should be.
  7. Turtle

    The Trump Card...

    So you don't know the accurate number. Got it. There are also people who didn't vote for Biden who nevertheless believe Jen Psaki is, uhm, how did you do creatively put it? Oh, yeah, "not inclined to fudging the facts in some instances." I live with one such person. But based on Jen and...
  8. Turtle

    The Trump Card...

    Really? Well what is the accurate number then, keeping in mind that unless you can give it, you don't know it, and can't claim mine is inaccurate.
  9. Turtle

    The Trump Card...

    OK, two issues here. One, if you're going to quote me, do it accurately without altering my words and then attributing your edits to me. That has happened once before, I addressed it directly, and now it's happened again. Why? Two, Trump is not my Messiah and I don't believe everything he says...
  10. Turtle

    The Trump Card...

    81,283,098, exactly.
  11. Turtle

    The Trump Card...

    Oh, you'd be surprised at how many people genuinely believe Jen Psaki doesn't lie. They think the job of the Press Secretary is to tell the truth. BTW, there is zero chance, if it's even that high, that any state will have a do over on a presidential election. No state or county has ever had a...
  12. Turtle

    The Trump Card...

    Right or Left, rabid or otherwise, doesn't matter. It's whether or not you believe everything your government tells you, and you think they wouldn't lie to you.
  13. Turtle

    The Trump Card...

    The Supreme Court ruled just two years ago that the government can't censor speech by getting a private entity to do it for them. That's why Jen is so quick to say, "Hey, even though we're working closely with them, it's not us, it's the social media companies making these decisions."
  14. Turtle

    The Trump Card...

    Due to the circumstances? The only circumstances where argumentum ad hominem is a possibly valid argument and not fallacious is in the realm of morality and ethics, and even the philosophers who argue that, past and present, are in the minority. In this case, if Favorino found voter...
  15. Turtle

    The Trump Card...

    There were a lot of weird things, irregularities, if you like, that happened in several states. All of them Battleground, or Swing States, coincidentally. See, in slam-dunk states, the solid red or solid blue, it would take massive, dare I say, widespread, voter shenanigans to flip the state...
  16. Turtle

    The Trump Card...

    They are fallacious 100% of the time. By definition, ad hominems are directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining. The person (or news source) may or may not be credible, but attacking the person instead of their position is not a valid argument against the position.
  17. Turtle

    The Trump Card...

    Ad hominem-y, much?
  18. Turtle

    The Trump Card...

    You call it the Big Lie solely because the mainstream media told you to. How do you like knowing that your opinions aren't even your own, that they were given to you by the media? It happens on both sides, by the way. The dead giveaway is when people express their opinions using the language...
  19. Turtle

    The Trump Card...

    ‘Not Our President’: Protests Spread After Donald Trump’s Election (Published 2016) Tens of Thousands Protest Trump Election Victory, 124 Arrested https://www.cnn.com/2016/11/09/politics/election-results-reaction-streets/index.html You don't get to make some wild-assed claim and then say...
  20. Turtle

    Factoring company?

    Resurrected by someone from Asia who snuck in via a proxy and VPN. Too bad, so sad, bub eye.
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