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  1. Turtle

    New York's governor

    Trump? Seriously? I could be wrong, but I don't think this thread is about Trump. Well, it is now.
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    Death by DeSantis

    Kids don't need to be vaccinated or wear a mask. And as far as I can tell, he's not preventing anyone who wants to wear a mask from wearing one.
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    C19 Topics

    Or requiring...
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    The Trump Card...

    That had FAKE NEWS written all over it. One, it doesn't even make sense that Trump would tell anyone to do that, and especially someone who could and would tell other people. Two, it's just one more example of 'just a little too on the nose.' When something gets reported that gets the...
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    Olympics...... Canada defeats U.S.A.

    Oh, Canada.
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    The southern border.

    That drone coverage is just brutal optics. They keep slowly flying the drone back and forth. From a political standpoint it's hilarious. From a humanitarian standpoint it's sickening. And I saw the same thing under the bridge in El Paso last time I was there, so it's not just that one location.
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    The southern border.

    Those are two different things. Illegally crossed the border over the weekend. Presently stored under the bridge.
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    The southern border.

    The Biden administration is not at all happy with that damn drone.
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    C19 Topics

    Nobody listens to Fauci anymore.
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    The Trump Card...

    :JC-hysterical:
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    The Trump Card...

    That's not your fault. The website at the CDC is a mess, same as everything else with the Biden administration. The website has scores of outdated pages with old data, and tons of pages with estimates instead of the reported cases. As for the rest of that crap you posted, that's all on you. I...
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    The Trump Card...

    I posted the actual link to where I got my numbers at the CDC website. Here it is again... COVID Data Tracker Here's the screen shot. I see that "statistically zero" is a concept that has you befuddled. That sentence doesn't make any sense, but OK. Number of people with at least one dose...
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    The Trump Card...

    Not if you do the math.
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    The Trump Card...

    But you did it while arguing over a much, much smaller difference. The difference between "No one who is vaccinated are dying from covid" and those rare exceptions who died, is so small as to be statistically insignificant. Statistically zero. Yet you make it out to be a big, fat hairy deal...
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    C19 Topics

    That's how it's being reported, or at least the message they're conveying in reports. If you look at the official wording, and not someone else's interpretation of it, it's loaded with qualifiers. Could, potentially, possible. Some of it is based on a debunked and withdrawn study from India...
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    sprinter / retarder shutoff relay

    Thanks for the update.
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    The Trump Card...

    Correct. You asked where I got my numbers from, so I replied "cdc.gov." Look, Dood, I said vaccinated people aren't dying, and you flipped out because there are an extremely small number who have, yet those numbers are hundreds of thousandths of a percent, and you think that's critically...
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    The Trump Card...

    At this point we know unambiguously that having survived covid gives you the same antibodies that the vaccine gives you. And the natural antibodies are just as effective as the vaccine. I have no idea why people are pushing covid survivors to get the vaccine. There's certainly no science behind...
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    The Trump Card...

    I posted both. That is what "cdc.gov" means. I guess you missed that. And if the Johns Hopkins numbers are accurate, I'm not going to dismiss the numbers just because I don't agree with their politics. That would be stupid. It's a false statement only to the mind-numbingly pedantic. My...
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    The Trump Card...

    The vaccine was politicized from the very beginning because Trump was involved, Biden and Harris and most of the left, especially in the news media, downplayed the vaccine and even induced fear over it. Now that Biden is president, "Oh, yeah, well, that was just political rhetoric. We didn't...
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